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Elusive Neutral

Started by Micko, September 07, 2014, 08:25:47 PM

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John Stenhouse

My Honda CRM used to do that exact thing, turned out to be the clutch basket, the "teeth" on the basket had become notched on the edges and were causing the problem. took the clutch plates out and a bit of judicious filing cured it. Warning don't get the filings in the engine!
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motoOzarks

If you shut the engine off when trying to find neutral does it help or change?

If you rock the bike backwards a bit does it help or change?

Have had:  Girelli Bronco 50, Honda xr70, Yamaha YZ80, Yamaha MX175, Suzuki TS250, Honda XR350, Honda XR500, Honda XL600r, Suzuki DR200, Suzuki GS1100e, Honda Ruckas 49, BMW F650GS
Have:  Yamaha TW200, Suzuki DRZ400s, Triumph Tiger 955i

nik_the_brief

Quote from: motoOzarks on July 17, 2015, 12:59:26 AM
If you shut the engine off when trying to find neutral does it help or change?

If you rock the bike backwards a bit does it help or change?



Shutting the engine off definitely does the ttrick, in fact at one stage I was having to turn off the ignition, find neutral and then fire her up again, that's fine until you do it so often in heavy traffic that you kill the battery from overuse.

I've not tried rocking it backwards before trying to select neutral but wil try it when (if) the symptoms return once I've given her an oil change and checked the cable adjustment.

Cheers everybody.

nik_the_brief

Grrr - new (bloody expensive) fully synth oil added and filter change.  No discernable difference, clutch still dragging, still scratching my head. 

Now I don't want to take it apart as there's £50's worth of oil plus a brand new filter fitted but it's just not right!  Might even have to take it to the local Triumph dealer so they can give it a quick once over.

JayDub

Quote from: nik_the_brief on July 21, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
Grrr - new (bloody expensive) fully synth oil added and filter change.  No discernable difference, clutch still dragging, still scratching my head. 

Now I don't want to take it apart as there's £50's worth of oil plus a brand new filter fitted but it's just not right!  Might even have to take it to the local Triumph dealer so they can give it a quick once over.
did you check the clutch basket where the plates slide in/out? Mr Stenhouse has a point, thats happened to me before and a gentle tickle with a warding file did the trick... you probably won't have to drop the oil if its on the side stand, just stuff a rag around the bottom to keep out any filings/swarf, and clean up well afterwards.
Two other ideas are 1. a stretched cable (didn't notice if you'd changed it) and 2. the lever end adjuster worn or the thread stripped
"When I was younger I could remember anything, whether it happened, or not."

pineygroveshop

Frayed clutch cable at the lever (handlebar end).
Cheers,
Stephen