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Title: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 10, 2016, 10:29:54 AM
Hi,

With my engine management light on, and not going out after the warm up cycles, and that rich fuel / oily exhaust smell I've been getting, it's finally time to delve into the realms of TuneECU !!  :icon_sad:

I've read the sticky, but don't have much idea about these things, so if someone can be bothered to answer the following, it would be much appreciated:

Will the cables I'm seeing on Fleebay work with any Tiger 955i or are there diferent ECU's ?? Mine's a late 2006.

What Windows operating systems do they work / not work on ??

Is it easy enough to diagnose a problem ??

Will I be able to upload a better map with ease ??

Is there a recommended retailer we use on here ??

Edit: I've got a Vagcom cable, will this serve as a cable for the Tiger and do i need to install separate drivers ??

Thanks in advance  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Bixxer Bob on May 10, 2016, 11:04:44 AM
A lot of the cables on Ebay give problems.  Before you go spending, try your vagcom cable.  You can't hurt anything by trying.

More money, but I have this one and it works:

http://www.triumphtwinpower.com/ttp-obd-2-usb-cable.php

At this stage all you are doing is looking at the codes to find out why your EFI light won't go out.  That may explain your oil smell etc.

I'm off to France for a few days tomorrow, but by the time I get back you'll have the cable and we can see what's what.

Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 10, 2016, 12:36:04 PM
My VagCom cable didn't seem to work, wouldn't recognize the drivers (I think). Would only acknowledge the RossTech ones.

Will have to source a cable.

Thanks for the info mate, and enjoy France  :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 10, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
Get the Triumph Twin Power one, it works and Mark is only a phone call away for support.

PS I don't get anything from Mark other than good service  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 10, 2016, 05:59:45 PM
Whoops, saw that post too late Sin-Tiger, ordered one from Fleebay, got good feedback, so should be ok. Will keep you all posted as to what the faults were   :icon_wink:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Timbox2 on May 10, 2016, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Tiger-G on May 10, 2016, 05:59:45 PM
Whoops, saw that post too late Sin-Tiger, ordered one from Fleebay, got good feedback, so should be ok. Will keep you all posted as to what the faults were   :icon_wink:

Now, Im not saying that yours will be, but mine from Fleebay, also with really good feedback was useless.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 10, 2016, 09:31:16 PM
Lol, cheers for that Tim !! 

There's a special prize for guessing what the fault codes will be  :party

I'm going with O2 sensor, and a coil plug  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 11, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Well, I've got a cable. I consider myself quite computer literate, and yet I am finding it an absolute bloody nightmare trying to find and load the correct drivers for my cable ??

Yes, I've checked all the helpful hints on Rat, here and the TuneECU site, but just can't seem to suss it ??

very frustrating - Grrrr :BangHead
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 11, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Have a look on Triumph Twin Power site, there is a link for the latest certified ftdi drivers and good guides for most versions of windoz.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Timbox2 on May 11, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
Quote from: Tiger-G on May 11, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Well, I've got a cable. I consider myself quite computer literate, and yet I am finding it an absolute bloody nightmare trying to find and load the correct drivers for my cable ??

Yes, I've checked all the helpful hints on Rat, here and the TuneECU site, but just can't seem to suss it ??

very frustrating - Grrrr :BangHead

Same here mate, Ive got my original cable that worked flawlessly 6 years ago on my last Girly but I just cannot get it to work on the laptop I have now.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 11, 2016, 09:48:55 PM
Sorted (kinded of), who'd have thought you would have to "unzip" the driver files you downloaded - Grrr !! (what a doyle, as we say in 'artlepool !!  :icon_lol:)

Sooooooo......... my error codes:

P0230 - fuel pump relay.
P1231 - fuel pump relay open circuit or short to ground.
P0202 - injector 2 circuit malfunction.
P1206 - injector 2 short circuit to battery or over temperature.

Was a bit far off with my O2 sensor guess  :^_^





Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: JoeDirt on May 12, 2016, 03:18:08 AM
P0230 - fuel pump relay. <--- cause you had your tank off...
P1231 - fuel pump relay open circuit or short to ground.  <--- cause you had your tank off...
P0202 - injector 2 circuit malfunction. <--- middle injector connection is lose
P1206 - injector 2 short circuit to battery or over temperature. <--- same as last...

Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 12, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Thanks Joe, will have a look today  :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Bixxer Bob on May 17, 2016, 10:05:37 PM
Given it's flashing up over temp and you have rich smells, I'd take a punt at it being stuck open or full of crap.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 18, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
Update:

I had a leak in one of my vacuum lines, so I've ordered 3 new ones. I took the injectors out and they all look clean, they were only professionally tested recently, with no problems. I've swapped the injectors around so that if the engine management light throws a fault again on a different cyl, I will know it's the injector. I balanced the carbs with a home made manometer, that was fun - NOT  :BangHead . The carbs were out, obviously, so got them back in line, but when I swapped the manometer vacuum lines round to test if they still read even, they were way out ?? Cleaned the plugs, ordered a new air filter.

Need to put it all back together, but when I was running the bike with the manometer attached, that rich smell was still there ?? Maybe it just is burning a lot of oil ??

Very frustrating !!
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Bixxer Bob on May 18, 2016, 07:54:53 PM
The split tube is common and the most usual cause of poor tickover / dying when stopping.

The injector fault could be wiring, I guess you'll have checked the injector plug, but also check the plugs at the ECU end to mke sure the pins are clean.

I use a Carbtune for the throttle bodies http://www.carbtune.co.uk/  well worth the money.

To set them up I put a short piece of silicon pipe from the throttle body stubs to a plastic T piece then the other branches of the T piece go to the IACV tube and the Carbtune.  I warm the bike up then set the throttle at 2000 rpm using a rubber ring between the handgrip and the switch housing.  Doing it this way you balance the butterflys with the IACV in circuit, just as it would be when riding.

Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 18, 2016, 09:57:24 PM
Yeah, I thought about investing in a Carbtune, they look well worth the money. Will see how I get on with my home made one for a bit.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 20, 2016, 04:48:28 PM
Just a quick update:

After checking the injectors, cleaning the spark plugs, balancing the throttle bodies, replacing the vacuum hoses and putting on a new air filter I started the bike with trepidation :^_^

Low and behold, whatever I did to fix it seems to have worked, even though I'm not sure what it is I fixed ??  :^_^ .

That rich /oily exhaust smell has gone, and it now smells like it should do. The bike feels soooo much better to ride, and pulls like it used to do. I did one of those so called "12 minute tunes", but not sure if it actually works after reading a few things on here ??

Sooooo...........confident in my mechanical abilities.................I had a go at putting in the TOR tune. Even that was successful (I think ??) !!  I did another "12 minute tune" and took it out for a spin. I was a bit shocked when the bike balked down at 6,000 revs, then didn't pull in any of the other gears under hard acceleration ??

Then after a few miles I tried accelerating the bike again, and it seemed to pull harder than it used to, and I'm sure it sounds a bit more "raspy". Not sure what the balking down was, and whether it will repeat itself ??

I went for a TPS reset, but couldn't get the green light to come on, so not sure if that's worked ??

Anyroadup - I just wanted to say a big thanks to those who replied on here, and the TuneECU guys for all the helpful information. Couldn't have done it without you - take a bow  :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Chris Canning on May 20, 2016, 06:13:35 PM
Have you done the airbox mod.
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 20, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
 Hi Chris,

Obviously I've read about the airbox mod over the years, but can't remember what it does ??

Just remind me again please ??
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Chris Canning on May 20, 2016, 09:46:30 PM
If you look in the 'How too' section there's a thread about it Airbox Mod all helps to give an extra bit of zip,there's been one decenter!!! But he lives on top of a mountain  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Quick Tune ECU info please
Post by: Tiger-G on May 20, 2016, 11:25:27 PM
Ha, thanks for that, will have a look  :icon_wink:
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