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Title: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 01:51:29 AM
As per Abruzzi's suggestion, let's us build a tire guide thread.

To start, we'll stick with tires available for Steamers and Girlies in the neighborhood of 110-80x19 for the front, and 150-70x17 for the rear.  The Steamer and Girly share tire sizes with the Suzuki V-Strom and BMW R-1100, -1150, and -1200GS, so if you find tires advertised for those bikes, you're in luck.

Since 2007+ Tigers run 17-inch wheels front and rear, dual-sport tires are extremely limited.  However, sport and touring tires in this size are wide open.

Please feel free to post comments regarding tires with which you have experience.

Here's a Tire Size Cross-Reference Guide:

Quote from: "aeronca"found a user friendly cross ref chart on web bike world. http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle- ... e-data.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-tires/tire-data.htm)
 
maybe stretch or abruzi could move this to the tire or parts sticky :) .   thanks,    eric
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 01:52:16 AM
Metzeler Tourance

(http://www.metzelermoto.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/Catalogue/EnduroStreet/Tourance_173X236.jpg)

http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog ... uro_street (http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/enduro_street/none&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=102113&uri=/metzeler/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/EnduroStreet_Tourance.xml&menu_item=/products/catalog/enduro_street)

These are soon being replaced by the Tourance EXP, so if you want a set of the original Tourances, you'd better act fast.
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 01:55:05 AM
Metzeler Tourance EXP

(http://www.metzelermoto.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/Catalogue/EnduroStreet/TouranceEXP_173X236.jpg)

http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog ... uro_street (http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/enduro_street/none&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=121435&uri=/metzeler/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/EnduroStreet_TouranceEXP.xml&menu_item=/products/catalog/enduro_street)

Tire reviews in a few of the bike magazines have reported that the EXP is a more street-oriented tire than the original Tourance...

http://www.superbike.co.uk/news/SuperBi ... 20635.html (http://www.superbike.co.uk/news/SuperBike_Metzeler_Tourance_EXP_tyre_news_120635.html)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:01:11 AM
Michelin Anakee

(http://www.transalp.de/technik/reifen/michelin/bilder/anakee.jpg)

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front ... 29&lang=EN (http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004104045&codePage=2092004104045_10092004102229&lang=EN)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:05:41 AM
Maxxis Presa Detour

(http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL680/2874913/5796473/237994184.jpg)

http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Str ... Front.aspx (http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Street/Presa-Detour-MA-PD-Front.aspx)

A thread from ADVrider...  http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6442966 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6442966)


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Shinko 705

(http://www.wps-inc.com/miscimages/e705.jpg)

http://www.shinkotireusa.com/ (http://www.shinkotireusa.com/)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:10:05 AM
Metzeler Karoo

(http://www.metzelermoto.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/Catalogue/Off_Road/Enduro/MCE_Karoo_173X236.jpg)

http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog ... g/off_road (http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/off_road/enduro_on_off&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=145710&uri=/metzeler/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/OffRoad_Karoo.xml&menu_item=/products/catalog/off_road)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
Metzeler Karoo T

(http://www.metzelermoto.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/Catalogue/Off_Road/Enduro/Karoo_T_173X236.jpg)

http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog ... g/off_road (http://www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/off_road/enduro_on_off&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=126736&uri=/metzeler/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/OffRoad_KarooT.xml&menu_item=/products/catalog/off_road)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:14:14 AM
Continental Twinduro TKC-80

(http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/continental_tkc80.jpg)

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/w ... 80_en.html (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/enduro/tkc_80/tkc_80_en.html)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:17:41 AM
Continental ContiEscape

(http://www.ityre.com/i/tyre/352.jpg)
Note that this tread pattern differs from that shown in Continental's web page below.  I do not know which tread pattern is actually in production.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/w ... pe_en.html (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/enduro/escape/escape_en.html)

There has been some debate as to the availability of this tire in the USA.

Read here for more (mis-)information...  http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219211 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219211)
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Post by: HappyMan on February 20, 2008, 02:18:51 AM
:notworthy  :notworthy  :notworthy
Thank you, thank you, thank you Stretch!
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:23:33 AM
Avon Distanzia

(http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/avon_distanzia.jpg)

http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/ ... tyre&id=20 (http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/?page=tyres&method=showtyre&id=20)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:26:44 AM
Pirelli Scorpion MT-90 S/T

(http://www.pirellityre.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/MOTO%20catalog_long/img_scorpionmt90st.jpg)

http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/ ... ORPION.xml (http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/on_off_road/enduro_street&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=1900&uri=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/MOTO_MV90STSCORPION.xml)
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 02:49:59 AM
Bridgestone Battlewings

(http://www.biker247.com/news/images/4757.jpg)

http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/gla ... ookupID=35 (http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/glamourindex.aspx?productID=181&LookupID=35)

http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/gla ... ookupID=35 (http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/glamourindex.aspx?productID=182&LookupID=35)
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Post by: Digger3 on February 20, 2008, 03:06:41 AM
Dunlop D607

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Dunlop/dunlop_d607.htm

Edited by Stretch to add Dunlop's D607 page...

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecat ... .asp?id=83 (http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecatalog_tire.asp?id=83)
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Post by: Digger3 on February 20, 2008, 03:09:15 AM
Continental Trail Attacks

What I'm Runnin'

http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Continental/continental_trail_attack.htm
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Post by: Digger3 on February 20, 2008, 03:18:18 AM
Fitment guide for the above Trail Attacks

http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/contibike/ ... %20955i%20 (http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/contibike/search.php?manufacturerid=53&model_name=Tiger%20955i%20)`01>

SOrry Stretch, couldn't get the post to show this URL, guess due to the > character, just copy to browser address line......
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Post by: aeronca on February 20, 2008, 05:24:20 AM
i have the perrlli mt80 on the bike now and dont care for them. i had mt60's on my xt550 and loved the hell out of them. way better off road, and on. just some food for thought.
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 05:31:51 AM
Misc. Reviews

Here is a link to some tire reviews from a rider who has tried quite a few on her BMW R1100GS (same tire sizes and similar bike size, weight, and use as '93-'06 Tigers)...

http://www.sylviastuurman.eu/motor/r11gstires/ (http://www.sylviastuurman.eu/motor/r11gstires/)

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Post by: katoomon on February 20, 2008, 06:20:57 AM
You is The Dude.  Many thanks.
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 06:43:16 AM
Now, what about my rug?

:mrgreen:
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 07:01:22 AM
Pirelli Scorpion Sync

(http://www.pirellityre.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/images/MOTO%20catalog_long/img_scorpionsync.jpg)

http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/ ... NC_HYP.xml (http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogo_schedaDescription.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/street/sport_tou_radial&vehicleType=MOTO&product_id=1651&uri=/pirellityre/en_IT/browser/xml/catalog/moto/MOTO_MV_SCORPIONSYNC_HYP.xml)

These come stock (in 17-inch sizes) on 2007+ Buell Ulysses.
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Post by: Stretch on February 20, 2008, 07:06:18 AM
Bridgestone TrailWings

(http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/images/TireSelector/tireimages/tw101.jpg)
Front:  TW101

http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/gla ... ookupID=19 (http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/glamourindex.aspx?productID=76&LookupID=19)


(http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/images/TireSelector/tireimages/tw152.jpg)
Rear:  TW152

http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/gla ... ookupID=19 (http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/glamourindex.aspx?productID=77&LookupID=19)
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Post by: fano on February 20, 2008, 04:25:52 PM
MITAS E-09

(http://www.cgs.eu/design/produkty/pneu/E-09nd.jpg)

http://www.cgs.eu/index.php?stranka=15&scid=52&pid=532 (http://www.cgs.eu/index.php?stranka=15&scid=52&pid=532)

Enduro Trail

Description   Modern type of tread pattern for both front and rear wheels of enduro motorcycles. Very good riding properties both on the road as well as in the medium terrain.
     
Maximum Overall Width in Service   156mm
     
Maximum Overall Diameter in Service   682mm
     
Weight   5.4kg
     
Inflation Pressure   230kPa
     
Tube    
     
Load Index / Speed Symbol   69T
     
Type   DAKAR
     
Tyre size   140/80-17 M/C TT
     
Tread Pattern   E-09
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Post by: Patrick the Scot on March 15, 2008, 03:01:52 AM
Quote from: "Stretch"Continental Twinduro TKC-80

(http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/continental_tkc80.jpg)

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/w ... 80_en.html (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/themes/motorcycletires/enduro/tkc_80/tkc80_en.html)

I'm thinking real hard on a set of 80's for the off-pavement in NM, CO, UT, etc.   Does anyone know how they stand up to staight-lined boredom at ton+ speeds out on the desert superslab?

Also how are they in regard to drift in the twisties on the macadam?
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Post by: Stretch on March 15, 2008, 04:01:00 AM
Quote from: "Patrick the Scot"Also how are they in regard to drift in the twisties on the macadam?

They're surprisingly competent in the twisties on dry surfaces.

No so much on wet pavement.  I've noticed the rear slips a bit more than I'm comfortable with... reduce speed and be very smooth, no problems.
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Post by: FullMonte on March 19, 2008, 08:29:16 PM
Furthermore, the TKCs are only rated to 99mph.  Although a good friend tells me they're quite stable for short blasts up to 115 on dirt. :lol:
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Post by: Patrick the Scot on March 20, 2008, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: "FullMonte"Furthermore, the TKCs are only rated to 99mph.  Although a good friend tells me they're quite stable for short blasts up to 115 on dirt. :lol:

So the negative is that they are not rated for super-high speed and are squirrely in the wet corners.  This would be expected.  How are they in regard to wear on the straight-line super-slab? Average?
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Post by: DireWolf on April 08, 2008, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: Patrick the ScotSo the negative is that they are not rated for super-high speed and are squirrely in the wet corners.  This would be expected.  How are they in regard to wear on the straight-line super-slab? Average?

On a beast - I have heard about 3-5k miles on a rear.  Dirt/gravel may extend this, but I would guess that extended desert slab will bugger the center quickly.  An option is TKC on the front, and a more slab friendly one on the rear.

I just took an "experienced" riders class in the rain on TKCs.  I pushed the quickstop drill extremely hard, and I think that my record for the 4 hour class was having both wheels locked for about 2 feet before recovering.......   :lol:
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Post by: pit0rz on April 09, 2008, 02:52:11 AM
Quote from: "Stretch"Avon Distanzia

(http://www.standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/avon_distanzia.jpg)

I just put a set of these on my '03.  So far, very good.  I've only put a couple hundred miles on them but so far, I am impressed.   :thumbsup
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Post by: John Stenhouse on April 09, 2008, 11:29:22 AM
The Distanzias are lovely, I'm on my second set. The front is more v shaped in profile so they tend to drop into corners but I like that.
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Post by: ridin gaijin on April 21, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
John & pitz, can you comment plse on road use and off-road use for those Distanzias? Owing to 2 cross-USA trips I have Pilots front and rear, but the rear one is shot. I want to replace both tires. I enjoyed the Anakees on & off road and am wondering about alternatives--don't want to go as hardcore off-road as something like that MITAS, the TKC-80, etc. Thanks!
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Post by: John Stenhouse on April 21, 2008, 07:23:52 PM
Avon are fine in DRY off road conditions. Stay away from mud and you'll be fine.
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Post by: John Stenhouse on April 21, 2008, 07:25:41 PM
Not much help that was it  :lol:

Dry off road is ok with just about anything. Mud does need something that will self clean the tread and the cross over tyres like the Distanzias wont
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Post by: pit0rz on April 23, 2008, 02:55:53 AM
Only 'off roading' I've done with them is the typical gravel/dirt road.  They're fine for that.  They have been very good on pavement.  Time will tell on tire wear.
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Post by: blacktiger on May 13, 2008, 03:30:40 PM
I've covered just over 1000 miles now on Avon Azzaro front and Avon Storm rear. They are excellent. They ride smoother than Tourances and the grip wet or dry is superb. I haven't been able to find fault yet.
They are a road tyre so don't expect to go near mud with them.
Title: Tourance EXP Review
Post by: FullMonte on May 22, 2008, 05:21:42 PM
The Tourance EXPs are an excellent performance tire.  They turn in quicker due to the front being a pointier profile than Anakees or Tourances.  On dry dirt/gravel they performed well when aired down, no worse than the others previously mentioned.  However, its on the street where they shine.  On most Sundays I am out ripping up the mountain roads of TN/GA/NC with some WERA roadracers on sportbikes.  The EXPs allowed me to maintain the usual pace without losing sight of my riding buddies.  The rear stepped out on me once, but it was a cold day (35 degrees) and I hadn't given the tires a chance to warm up yet.  Confidence in the rain was never an issue either.  The only downside to these tires is life.  They were toast after 2850 miles.  As always, YMSBB*

Your Mileage Should Be Better.
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Post by: eldiii on May 31, 2008, 08:41:32 PM
Last two sets have been Michelin Pilot Roads, I've just ordered another pair at Motorcycle super store @ 262.98 out the door.  I've been mostly interstate commuting between Western PA, Metro DC (NOVA) and all over Maryland with romps through the back roads of PA, VA and WV.  My mileage is consistently 8.5 to 9K miles of life.   It's not a off road tire by any means but works very well for high mileage road trips as I'm some where between 500 and 1200 per week on the bike from April to November.

Works for me.

eldiii
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Post by: blacktiger on June 01, 2008, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: "eldiii"Last two sets have been Michelin Pilot Roads, I've just ordered another pair at Motorcycle super store @ 262.98 out the door.  I've been mostly interstate commuting between Western PA, Metro DC (NOVA) and all over Maryland with romps through the back roads of PA, VA and WV.  My mileage is consistently 8.5 to 9K miles of life.   It's not a off road tire by any means but works very well for high mileage road trips as I'm some where between 500 and 1200 per week on the bike from April to November.

Works for me.

eldiii

But they're French!
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Post by: Stretch on June 01, 2008, 05:44:58 PM
So is Sophie Marceau.

Hubba hubba.
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Post by: iceweazel on June 18, 2008, 09:32:24 PM
Any other suggestions for straight-up Road Tyres?   I'm commuting about 110miles round trip, a few of times a week for a new job I've started.

Something longer lasting would be good, medium grip would be acceptable as long as wet performance isn't awful.
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Post by: pit0rz on June 19, 2008, 02:30:46 AM
I'm running Avon Storm's on my FJ.  'Tis a fine tire so far...

(http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/images/storm_pr.jpg)
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Post by: J. Breeze on August 15, 2008, 06:43:28 PM
Quote from: iceweazelAny other suggestions for straight-up Road Tyres?   I'm commuting about 110miles round trip, a few of times a week for a new job I've started.

I'm running Conti Street Attacks with good results although my riding is so limited I couldn't speak to longevity or wet handling.  :roll:
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Post by: flux on September 04, 2008, 02:37:36 AM
Different question:  What is the CHEAPEST tire made for the Tiger?  I am about to make an interstate run to Louisville KY from Atlanta in a few weeks and don't wanna destroy my semi-fresh TKCs doing it.  I only need a rear, still have a 50% front Tourance in the garage.
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Post by: pit0rz on September 04, 2008, 11:16:07 PM
the 5% Tourance in my shed would be the cheapest (free)   :P

Well, you'd have to come get it!  :D
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Post by: FullMonte on September 05, 2008, 12:14:39 AM
Quote from: "flux"Different question:  What is the CHEAPEST tire made for the Tiger?  

Bridgestone Battlewing, Dunlop 607, or Maxxis Presa Detour (its made of butter).
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Post by: REGULATOR on September 21, 2008, 03:29:16 PM
is there a post somewhere with a realistic explanation of what to expect from each of these tires on a Tiger?

   I am thinking of going more dirt agressive but still want to do some miles...

or Do I need to get a two sets of tires and swap them out
Title: Conti Trail Attack's
Post by: Tom Herold on December 24, 2008, 03:05:31 PM
I replaced my worn out Pilot Roads with the Continental Trail Attacks last night at 23,300 miles on the odometer.  The Tiger also received a new chain and sprockets, the bike feels like a new machine again.

After doing a lot of research, and analyzing my riding style (90/10), this seemed like the tire for me. I'm a daily rider, commuting to and from work 10 miles each way. The Tiger's my weekend run-around machine too, so it see's some distance riding as well.  There are a few fire roads I plan to investigate now that I have a "dual-sport" capable of enduring them.

Initial impressions after the first 100 miles are mixed, but still favorable. I have to admit, the front end feels a bit heavier in turns, but not in a bad way, just different than what I'm used to.  They lean into the corner well and stay there once established, I'm confident in the tires ability to stick.  On the highway, they track straight and don't grab the tar snakes or siping in the roads, so I think they'll be a good touring tire too.  

The tires look good on the machine, meaning they don't look out of place.  The tread pattern is definately different than most conventional tires, but it's not overwhelming.

The tread pattern is deep, I measured 9mm depth on the rear just after it was mounted. I'm hoping for at least 7-8k out of it. The front's a bit thinner measuring in at 5mm, but not so much that it doesn't offer a good impression of longevity.

The ride quality is good, the road noise is minimal and they feel sure footed on both rough and smooth pavement.  They're not as scrubbed in as I'd like because it's been a bit wet here, but it'll dry out the next couple of days and I'll put them through their paces on some of my favorite roads, to include a few trails in the area.  I'll also post how they do when the bike's fully loaded and two-up once I get to that point.

I'll update this with more impressions as the miles roll on and give a wear report so others considering this tire can have the information to ponder.

As soon as I get home from work, I'll post a few pics.

More to come.  :new_xmas

Edit: Pics added showing rear mounted, front mounted, and tread depth measurements for both.

Edit Edit:  I put down 450 miles on the tires on Christmas day, part interstate, part two lane, wet, dry, down pours, grated bridges, hot and cool weather.  No off-roading yet, so no report for that type of riding.

Further impressions:  These tires definately feel solid on the road at any speed regardless of the road conditions. I hit 120mph on an open stretch with no traffic and a straight shot and these tires did very well. I traveled at speed through construction areas where the road surfaces changed from concrete, to asphalt, to concrete again and these tires didn't care, they stayed planted and tracked true. You can run over road imperfections and they'll stay on track without wandering or a wiggle.

In the wet weather they performed well regardless of the amount of water on the roadways; no floating feeling, nothing unsure or suprising, and confidence inspiring even in the corners.  The tread pattern evacuates water very well and the compound sticks to the surface. The only problem encountered was starting off from a red light and the rear spun on the white painted line. Admittedly, I was on the throttle pretty hard and getting ready to row through the gears to get on the interstate. It wasn't a bad spin, but I did lose a bit of traction and it wasn't planned.

The biggest drawback so far is the front's heavy feeling.  It takes more effort to get the front into a corner, but once it's there, it stay's planted and is easy to lean into. Coming out of a corner the tires want to stand up and track straight again, which can require some more effort if you're running the twisties.  

Final short term thought: The heavy front end is something I can live with and I'm guessing I'll grow accustomed to it. They're definately not a high performance street tire, but seem to be good all-arounders and touring skins.  These are good tires overall and can be purchased at a good price, I like them.  The real clincher for me will be the longevity, which I'll report on as the miles pile on.
Title: 1500 mile update
Post by: Tom Herold on February 05, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Okay, I have 1500 miles on the tires now and remeasured the tread depth at 7.7 for the rear and 4.5 for the front. They're wearing pretty well and look to give decent longevity.

This has been 99% road and highway mileage broken down into a 10 mile daily commute to work on side streets, and another 10 home, 5 days a week.

There are two one-up weekend road trips, and one two-up 400 mile day run on superslab and secondary roads also.

As the tires have broken in, I'm finding them very complaint and sticky for my type of riding. I've leaned the bike all the way over to a foot peg scrape on turns, and ridden in all weather except ice/snow and have found them very secure on wet roads. They don't care about irregular road surfaces and feel great at high speeds (100mph+)

Overall, I like them and recommend them to anyone considering a set.

I'll keep the mileage updates coming.
Title: Tom Herold
Post by: cwdrifter on February 27, 2009, 07:39:24 AM
How many miles now...my rear Anakee is shot at 10,000 miles....but I don't really see that much rain in So Cal so running it still with treadless stripe down middle...pushing my luck.
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Post by: Tom Herold on February 27, 2009, 01:45:50 PM
I'm at 2600 miles on the tires now. The front's wearing like iron, the Conti Attack lettering is still there and easily read. The rear measured out at 6.9mm tread depth after all street use for my commutes and weekdn road trips.  I'm running 40psi on both ends.

Having started at 9mm rear tire tread depth and now at 6.8 after 2600 miles, the outlook is pretty decent.
Title: Tyres Conti-Trail-Attacks
Post by: oxnsox on March 04, 2009, 01:30:35 AM
Thanks for updating your experience with these, have just fitted a pair to my 03. Interestingly the recommendation for pressures was 34-36 front and 38-40 for the rear, depending upon load and use.

Will see how they run in the next few weeks on a trip.....
Title: Have to start over!
Post by: Tom Herold on March 11, 2009, 06:37:19 PM
The front tire took a fairly large lag bolt right through the middle of the tread. It was big enough to ruin the belt and render it incapable of being patched or fixed. So..... ordered a new front tire last night and will have to start over with that one  :cry:  

The rear was spared so I'll continue to update on the mileage/wear.
Title: Conti Trail-Attacks
Post by: oxnsox on March 24, 2009, 12:44:17 AM
Just put around 2000 of your miles on my new set and generally happy with them.  
First days ride was just over 400 where I found the rear end seemed to have a shimmy, (mostly noticeable around or above 65).  Wasn't sure if this was caused by the loaded panniers, poor balancing, or something to do with the new tyres (pressure/profile). With warm rubber at fuel ups I simply checked what I could, adjusted the load, and pressed on. Couldn't check cold pressures next day again so things were warm when I fueled.   When I did check things cold, they were low (both around 32), and I can say things felt much better after that with the right air all round.
Lessons learned. 1) Don't believe the tyre shop, check the pressure after they fit new rubber.  2) Carry a tyre pressure gauge to be able to check things cold, wherever you are.
Title: a little FYI on Continental tires
Post by: xtphreak on March 31, 2009, 05:26:09 PM
I have a new-to-me 1999 Tiger ... i.e spoked wheels

so .... tubes

in reading widely varying "opinions" on this, I was perplexed.

not safe in all tubeless tires due to rough interior / only use "radial" tubes / only use heavy duty tubes / don't use heavy duty tubes / etc / etc

so I asked Continental

specifically can I run tubes in their radial tubeless tires (Attack series)?

and can I run a 110/80-19 Trail Attack front with a Road Attack rear (since I have a brandy new Road Attack 150/70-17 in the garage for the rear of the TDM850)?


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Customer (Janet D******a) - 03/30/2009 04:33 PM   
Please forward following reply:

Dear Mr. M******n,
Your recent inquiry was forwarded to the Continental Tire North America
Two Wheel division.  
You can certainly mix and match our tires, and all of our tubeless tires can also be used as tube type with a tube.  

You might see a little better mileage on the Road Attack compared to the Trail Attack, but it depends on your type of riding.  

You can look at our website www.conti-moto.com (http://www.conti-moto.com) for more detailed descriptions of the two models.  

Thank you for your interest in Continental motorcycle tires.

Regards,
Janet D*****a
Continental Tire North America Inc.
Coordinator, Operations/Administration
Two Wheel Tires
Tel: 973-471-****
Fax: 973-471-****
Email:  janet.d*****a@conti-na.com

(names and numbers blocked for privacy by me)
Title:
Post by: DRB Imagery on March 31, 2009, 07:19:45 PM
An interesting site you might want to look at. www.gnarlyparts.ca (http://www.gnarlyparts.ca). Have great shipping and tire prices I think.

Dave
Title: Tyre comparison
Post by: oxnsox on April 01, 2009, 12:45:10 AM
Thru the Conti website there is a copy of some comparative tyre tests done in Germany on an R-1200GS thats worth a read. Compares 6 different Manufacturers dual purpose rubber in wet and dry...  


http://www.conti-online.com/generator/w ... ner_en.pdf (http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/motorcycle/general/links/news/cta_testwinner_en.pdf)

You may have to cut and paste the link.  and yes Conti came out well which is,no doubt, why they got it translated and posted.  Thanks xtphreak for leading me there
Title:
Post by: TigerTrax on April 01, 2009, 03:13:17 AM
XTP...
The '95-98 Steamers and '99-04 Girlies ran TUBES.
However, the tires are TUBELESS.
It's just that Triumph's spoked rims ... well.... are spoked.

So just get a good tube and throw it in.... you'll be OK.

FYI...
Breaking the bead on either is rougher than a aged corn cobb on a cold
winter night inside a one-holer!
Title:
Post by: xtphreak on April 01, 2009, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: "TigerTrax"XTP...
The '95-98 Steamers and '99-04 Girlies ran TUBES.
However, the tires are TUBELESS.
It's just that Triumph's spoked rims ... well.... are spoked.

So just get a good tube and throw it in.... you'll be OK.

FYI...
Breaking the bead on either is rougher than a aged corn cobb on a cold
winter night inside a one-holer!

as we say down here

I ain't Skeered

looking back on it, I don't know what the big deal was ... I went thru this on the XT600E when I first went to Avon Gripsters ... which I'd run on the Tiger in a skinny minute if they were available in the right sizes. Fantastic grip on road, wet or dry, quiet, long wearing.

Some Gripsters were listed as Tube, some as Tubeless ... but they all worked on the XT600E with tubes
Title: Conti Trail Attack Update
Post by: Tom Herold on April 22, 2009, 03:45:28 AM
I had to make a run from Charleston, SC, to Dallas, TX, last week for a funeral. I loaded up the Tiger and hauled ass 1050 miles one-way, as quick as possible. The first day I ran 800 miles before the weather got the best of me and I decided to get some rest before finishing the ride up the next day. The saddle bags, tour pack, tank bag and back seat were packed with my road kit, hot, cold and wet weather gear and of course, clothes. The tires were aired to 36psi front and 38psi rear.

The run was all super slab and the tires never let me down. I put them on at 23k and now have just at 28,200k on the bike. If you've been reading, you'll know I had to replace the front due to a large lag bolt right through the middle tread, so I had to reset my mileage on the one. However, the rear measured out at 5.8mm tread depth tonight after 5k miles on it.  I am continually impressed with the tire's ability to adapt to all road surfaces and conditions without hesitation. The mileage is looking pretty good too.

In all honesty, I'm going to replace the rear Trail Attack with a Road attack when it's due for replacement since my off-roading thoughts seem to have dwindled and the dual compound Road Attack should wear longer.

I'll keep the commentary running as the tires continue their service.
Title:
Post by: Mini Mo on May 01, 2009, 08:20:29 PM
I just ordered a Conti Road Attack this morning for my '99. I'll be taking a 7,000 mi. ride in June and will let you know what kind of milage/wear I get. Took the same trip last year with a new Anakee. It handled great in the dry and excelled in the wet (2 1/2 days of solid rain and snow) but am a bit disappointed in the mileage I got. Less than 8,000 and it's pretty much shot. Also, these things are LOUD when they start to wear.
Title: Feedback from the last 10k
Post by: JasonS on June 18, 2009, 06:27:51 PM
I started this spring with a set of Conti Attack tires on the bike. I had managed to get them last fall and when I was putting them on found they had shipped a rear Road attack and a front Trail attack... sigh....

They lasted about 5000 miles... about what I expect from a rear tire.... sigh...


This is on an '06 Tiger... with full hard bags, tank bag, tank panniers, tent, sleeping bag, Kermitt chair... and me at 270 in full kit. 38f/42r

I rode from Big Bend NP back to Austin, weaving most of the way to stay off the center strip... and of course Interstate riding took its' toll, but those Texas chip'n seal roads are killer on tires. Period. ..... and as much as one hates the CnP, in the rain, those spots that are all seal make us wish for the nasty sharp chips!!

In Austin I mounted a set of Metzler Tourances 38f 42r, at exactly 10000 miles on the bike! I now have 14,700 with a good 2/3000 left on the rear.... and there was a good 2500 miles of Interstate in there.....


The Attacks are great riding and handling tires, no doubt...

The Tourances are great riding and adequate handling tires.

...for my riding style, I do not need the better grip of the Attacks, and the much better tread life makes up for the difference in cost between the two at the time of purchase. I have since seen the Tourances available at costs closer to the Attack.

The Tourances will impart a bit of low speed thumpiness due to the tread pattern, but this is minor... They also are MUCH better than the Attacks in the "other than asphalt" category.

I'll post again when I get to the end of life with these Tourances. Given that they will live out their days not loaded to the scuppers, I suppose I might get 8k fromt he rear... which would be very pleasing to me....
Title:
Post by: Tom Herold on July 24, 2009, 11:08:55 PM
Conti Trail Attack Update:

I'm at 9000 miles on my conti trail attacks and measured my tread depth at 4.5mm remaining this evening. Still in good shape, still doing it's job in the dry and wet stuff.

I like them, but will probably go to the road attack for the rear next since I haven't done but a little off-roading.
Title:
Post by: Tom Herold on August 03, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
Well... I jinxed myself by measuring the rear last week..... I was guessing I'd get at least 11k maybe 12k out of the rear, but took a nice piece of steel rod right through a tread block and ruined the tire..... so the mileage count has ended at just over 9k.

I've ordered a Road Attack for the rear since the Trail Attack on the front's still pretty new.

In all, I like the Continentals. They've performed in all weather and all raod conditions from touring on the interstate to the twisties on teh Dragon's Tail. I'm going to stay with them a while.
Title:
Post by: BigMark on September 11, 2009, 10:12:17 AM
You guys are probably better placed to answer this, Which tyres (if any) are good for long road riding and then riding across Dirt/Sand and general rubble.
We dont get that over in Blighty (just mud) but having been to Both AUS and the US i see there is an abundance..
Reason i ask is that 36 - 48 hours ride away I can be in Eastern Europe or  North Africa  where you can find yourself in the middle of nowhere without a road in sight and even the roads that are around are generally just vague suggestions..  "trying to plan a trip out there"
Title:
Post by: wasions on January 18, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
Well Mark, I'm pretty happy with my combination.  Front - Shinko 'Trail Master' 705, Rear - Michelin Anakee.
I haven't tried any large-lugged tires because most of my mileage is street, but with the 705 on the front, I'm much less apprehensive about dirt/gravel mixes.
Wear with the Anakee is fantastic (I've gotten between 10k and 13k rear and 23k front - but the front was REALLY thin when I took it off).
I now have around 5k miles on the front Shinko with almost no detectable wear.
For road handling, this combination is better than any I've had on the Tiger ('06).  Anakees tended to drift off the intended line whether upright or leaned over.  The Road Attacks that I had last held the line well in a curve, but weaved even more going straight.  They were also awful when the road got wet.
I'm not a peg-scraper, but this combo lets me keep up with any (sane) rider or group.
Over 41k miles on the Tiger.
Title: Compilation of tire reviews
Post by: matteblack on February 04, 2010, 12:30:27 AM
In case folks haven't seen it, I found this site very useful:
http://standoutnet.com/extras/mike/moto ... 650/tires/ (http://standoutnet.com/extras/mike/motorcycles/klr650/tires/)

It's a list of dual sport tires suitable for the KLR650, with comments. While the tire size is different, many of the tires are available for the Tiger. What's great about the list is that it has pictures of each tire and a compilation of many different rider reviews from websites such as ADVrider and thumpertalk. Enjoy!
Title: Mefo Sport Explorer
Post by: matteblack on February 04, 2010, 12:41:14 AM
I have used Mefo Sport Explorer (MFE 99) tires on a KLR before, and really liked them. Decent on the road and not too noisy, but solid on gravel/dirt. Probably more of a 50-50 than an 80-20. Not sure if they would fit on the Tiger, but they do come in 17 and 19". Here is the site:

http://www.mefotyres.com (http://www.mefotyres.com)

(http://www.aviciouscycle.ca/images/Mefo/Mefoexploer100.jpg)
Title: Tourances
Post by: ArchRider on March 24, 2010, 02:33:56 AM
I have a set of the old Tourances on my Girly and I am wondering how low do people let the tread go on these things before they swap them out.  I have about 3mm down the middle of my front tire and I'm coming up on 10k mi.  I've heard that 2mm is when you should cash them in.  Does anyone use a percentage of the original tread depth rather than a firm depth measurement of 2mm?
And what about the EXP's?  I'm hearing that they are wearing out a lot faster than the old Tourances.  If that's the case, based upon what I am reading here, I may switch to the Conti Road Attacks.  I seldom get out on dirt, maybe some gravel roads once or twice a year.  But since I rifde year round, I definitely need something that is good in the wet (and sometimes a little snow).
Title:
Post by: EvilBetty on March 24, 2010, 06:20:21 AM
Mine were slicks in the middle couple of inches :)

They came with the bike so I'm not sure how many miles were pulled from them.
Title:
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 24, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
I don't wring the last yard out of any tyre, I run them until the squaring off makes them unpredictable.  The first time a squared tyre squirms on wet tarmac it's junked.

Mine square off because I do loads of motorway miles, but I've found the Pirelli Scorpion Trails I fitted last year to wear well on road, have huge amounts of grip, wet or dry and very neutral steering ie it goes where it's pointed, unlike when I had Anakees which would run wide.  They've done 4k miles so far and still plenty left on them.
Title: Re: Tourances
Post by: Mustang on March 24, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: "ArchRider"And what about the EXP's?  I'm hearing that they are wearing out a lot faster than the old Tourances.  If that's the case, based upon what I am reading here, I may switch to the Conti Road Attacks.  I seldom get out on dirt, maybe some gravel roads once or twice a year.  But since I rifde year round, I definitely need something that is good in the wet (and sometimes a little snow).

the EXP's didn't replace the original Tourance , they are an addition to the line up , and yes they wear faster but they are made from a softer compound rubber and thus have better road handling capability . Also when side by side the exp looks to have less tread depth which will help it to not squirm around  on the big tread blocks so much . But will also lead to shorter tire life .

The original Tourances are available just about every where on line .

Some people like em , some people hate em , but  I have found that they do wear well . Except that the front tire always seems to cup after about 5k miles but that could be me ..........I use a lot of front brake .

I have tried lot's of different brands of tires over the years on the steamers and other than the dogpile on ADV RIDER about the tread seperating , I found that the Shinko 705's are a killer deal ,less than $125 dollars a set , that's right a set . They are not radials , but tigger liked them and I put them to a 8000 mile test last year on a cross country trip ,no problems they wore exceptionally well , they are on the rims on the bench and can go another season of riding , but I went a different route and put trophy wheels on  the steamer this year , I went with a shinko in the front though cuz it was cheap and fit the 17  inch front rim , and they proved themselves to me last year on any road , any condition , dirt , constuction zone mud , rain , superslab , anything they worked well .

If you read the thread on ADV rider about them though , the general consensus from the same few posters is that they are bad tires and the tread will delaminate and kill you instantly.  :ImaPoser

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443226
it's a long read over a 1000 posts to the thread ...............

I have not seen anything happen to them any worse than any other dual sport tire I have used .

now if this rain would let up a little I would go and wear some of that Korean rubber out  :D  :D
Title:
Post by: HappyMan on April 13, 2010, 05:04:00 AM
Anyone have any info on the Pirelli Scorpion Trail?  I love my TKCs and will put another set on after my trip to Bannf?  I liked my Anakees except for the goofy wearing front tire so I'd like to try something new for this trip.
Title:
Post by: Bixxer Bob on April 13, 2010, 04:32:28 PM
Last summer I wanted the new road orientated Scorpion Trails but my tyre fitter put the old type on instead (block pattern similar to Anakees).  I like the old guy so took them thinking I'll try the new type next time.

Look here:

http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... pion+trail (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,5649&highlight=pirelli+scorpion+trail)

and here:

http://tigertriple.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ion+trails (http://tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4907&highlight=scorpion+trails)

Wear-wise they seem to be holding up well, in line with Anakees.  I have to say though the grip and confidence the Pirellis give is superb.  I'll be using them again.
Title:
Post by: HappyMan on April 13, 2010, 07:15:38 PM
Thanks Bixxer. I don't care much about how quickly they wear out.  I like a good sticky tire that works well in rain and for this trip some gravel.  There won't be any heavy off road stuff.

Looks like I'll take a chance on them and let you guys know what I think.
Title: Dunlop Trailmax
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on April 14, 2010, 06:01:01 AM
My 96 Steamer has a set of Dunlop Trailmax on them. Just noticed the sidewalls have some hairline cracks in them so I'll be changing them soon. I have no idea how old they are or how many miles are on them, but I've had a couple of surprises with them. The rear is currently about 65% gone. The front about 35% gone.

They look a little off road oriented, which might explain my findings. This is my first bike with any offroad aspirations. Up till now I've run with sport bikes on Dunlop D220 and Metzler RoadTech Z6s. Both of which are awesome road tires.

I've had them come loose in the straights on moderately gravely tarmac. I know Tiggers are powerful but I wasn't hammering it that hard.

I've had them come loose on mildly wet concrete from a dead stop, too. I'm really not a leadfoot, folks.

I've locked up the rear wheel much easier than I thought I should on a couple of occasions

In all of this the Tigger behaved remarkably well and I was able to recover without breaking the bike or myself. I'm not sure my Sprint or my Lightning would have behaved as well.

Hope this helps someone.
Title: Re: Dunlop Trailmax
Post by: Mustang on April 14, 2010, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"My 96 Steamer has a set of Dunlop Trailmax on them. Just noticed the sidewalls have some hairline cracks in them so I'll be changing them soon. I have no idea how old they are or how many miles are on them, but I've had a couple of surprises with them. The rear is currently about 65% gone. The front about 35% gone.

They look a little off road oriented, which might explain my findings.

Nikolai
I can't find that tire for sale anywhere on the net for USA dealers it only shows up on UK web sites

Also they all claim  superior off road use and not so much for road but road legal that would explain their bad manners on pavement

That tire is not listed in Dunlop USA's tire catalog either on their web site , so quite possibly you have old tires (cracks in sidewalls) and that will also make for hard rubber that will behave badly

Tourances work really really good on steamers good grip and long life

Dunlop 607 works good but wears faster,

Cheapest ,bestest tire I have used so far is the Shinko 705's , they are not radials but bias ply and the tigger worked real good on them last year on cross country trip wear has been excellent and the price is smokin but they are hard to find now after the BMW crowd learned of them
They look to have a new radial version coming out for Tiger sizes but the price is going up  :cry:
Title: Shinkos
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on April 14, 2010, 03:31:11 PM
So it would seem I'm riding on wheel chock rubber. Once again, thanks Mustang. I have a long list of work to do: Replace tires and chain and sprockets. I probably shouldn't be riding it at all until this is done.

I did see your post about the Shinkos and investigated them. Maybe I'll try a set of those.
Title: Re: Dunlop Trailmax
Post by: NeilD on April 14, 2010, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: "Mustang"Tourances work really really good on steamers good grip and long life

:

had a pair put on mine a month or so back to replace the old cracked 'escapes' that it came with...  I love 'em so far although not tried them in the wet nor off road, but great for my riding...  8)
Title:
Post by: JetdocX on April 14, 2010, 08:29:35 PM
OK, my inner cheap bastard can no longer stand the Conti Trail Attacks (coincidentally they are mostly worn out).  

I've had Anakees on there and liked them.  I had TKC-80's on a smaller bike and loved them, but since I commute on this thing, I think knobs are a waste based on the accelerated wear vs. price.

Anyone tried Anakee II's?  Anything else?
Title: anakee 2
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on April 14, 2010, 11:26:36 PM
If you can wait long enough (week or 2) I think I'm going to end up with anakee 2s because my local guy has them and can mount them for me.
Title: Re: Dunlop Trailmax
Post by: KuzzinKenny on April 15, 2010, 01:58:45 AM
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"My 96 Steamer has a set of Dunlop Trailmax on them. Just noticed the sidewalls have some hairline cracks in them so I'll be changing them soon. I have no idea how old they are.

This might help !!

http://www.amadirectlink.com/roadride/R ... /tires.asp (http://www.amadirectlink.com/roadride/Riderresc/tires.asp)

KK
Title: Thanks KuzzinKenny
Post by: Colonel Nikolai on April 15, 2010, 06:04:24 AM
Hey thanks KuzzinKenny.

So out to the garage and I find that the tires were made in January of 2004  :shock: No wonder.

Mustang if you're reading this and want to remove my posts on the Dunlop Trailmax from this thread, feel free: I figure since the thread is sticky and my information is out of date on a tire that isn't being made and could potentially mislead people. Or? Maybe it's helpful? I dunno. Up to you.

Cheers everyone.
Title:
Post by: jsingraham on April 16, 2010, 05:46:37 AM
So since I have an extra set of wheels for my 06, I am looking to put a set of sport touring/street tires on that extra set of wheels.  Any recommendations from those of you who have ran street tires?  

I live in the midwest, and 80% of my riding is fairly straight roads with the occasional trip to Arkansas or S W Missouri where there are some good twisties, so I do want something to handle well in those circumstances.  But since I really don't need the dual sport tires but for about 2% of my annual mileage, I figured I might as well run something that gives me a bit more smooth ride and probably better handling than what the Anakees that I have on it now provide.

I was looking at the Metzeler Roadtec Z6 sport touring ones, but really don't know what to look for since I haven't tried anything but Anakees and Tourances on my Tiger's before.

Thanks,
Jason
Title:
Post by: Mustang on April 16, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
Jason

These work pretty good and give good mileage wear too !

Avon
AM26 Roadrider Rear Tire
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/0000_Avon_AM26_Roadrider_Rear_Tire_--.jpg)

Rear from Motorcycle superstore is $100 and the matching front is 85 but the front size is only a 90/90/19

the metzlers are available in a tiger size of 110/80/19

that's the common problem trying to fit street rubber to the tiger hard to find matching front tires lots of tires out there that will fit the rear .the front not so much

Bridgestone
Battlax BT-45 Sport Touring Front Tire
(http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/0000_Bridgestone_Battlax_BT-45_Sport_Touring_Front_Tire_--.jpg)
these are the bonneville tires and they can be had in tiger sizes for front  but the rears only go up to a 140/17  
but you can get a rear Battlax BT-45V for a 100 bucks that is a 150/17
so you could run the bridgestones which work very well on the bonneville BTW for about $180 a set
Title:
Post by: jsingraham on April 16, 2010, 02:55:25 PM
Thanks Ken...after posting that last night, I got a response from my neighbor who is on his 3rd set of Michelin Pilot Road's and I did a little reading on them and found quite a few Tiger and big trailie folks have used and really liked them.  There is some on Ebay now, a front and rear set for $189.  So between your suggestions and the Michelin's, I think I have a couple to choose from that are all at good prices.

Jason
Title:
Post by: jsingraham on April 20, 2010, 06:07:29 AM
Ended up going with the Michelin Pilot Roads.  For $189 for the pair with free shipping and the high ratings everywhere that I found, I figured it would be tough to go wrong with that.  We shall see once I get them mounted on my spare wheels and then swapped over to the bike.  Hope to do it in the next couple of weeks.  Haven't even pulled the Tiger out of the shed yet this spring, so hopefully this will be enough of an incentive to get me moving on it.

Jason
Title: Just installed Heidenau K60's on my Girly
Post by: tett on April 26, 2010, 02:38:14 AM
Just installed Heidenau K60's.  Feels great now that I know I can do this task.   So good it's time for an evening beer!

I just need to balance these and I am ready to slap em back on.

Here are a some of great youtube vids which show how to change tires

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pfp2Z9k0n0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pfp2Z9k0n0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AerHAYs435s&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AerHAYs435s&NR=1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrhMUPxI3o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNrhMUPxI3o)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgHVjXZwoM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgHVjXZwoM&NR=1)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_fvv_KTT4Ly0/S9TeRSjtq-I/AAAAAAAABNI/Se4NvWPn0XE/s800/IMG_6539.JPG)
Title:
Post by: JetdocX on April 27, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
OK, I'm finished with the Conti Trail Attacks.  If you look really close, you can actually see the air inside.

(http://jetdoc.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Hillbilly-Deluxe-2010/DSC01496/847754421_cdZm9-M.jpg)

The sidewall wear came on really suddenly.  Scared the crap out of me Sunday morning 100 miles from home.  I rode back on them.  It was the longest 2.5 hours in the saddle to date. :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

You can really see the dual compound construction.

9649 out of the rear tire.  I think that's a record for me.  I could push it some more, but left turns now scare the crap out of me.

Going with Anakee II's next.
Title:
Post by: EvilBetty on April 27, 2010, 08:55:26 AM
You easily have another 10k to go on that tire...


 :new_popcornsmiley
Title:
Post by: tett on April 27, 2010, 04:37:56 PM
I just did my first 50Km's on the Heidenau K60's.

I balanced these with Dynabeads.  http://www.dynabeads.net/ (http://www.dynabeads.net/)

On dry pavement these tires are great!  Quieter than I thought they would be.  The dynabeads did a fantastic job of balancing the tires.

I think these a re a great dual purpose 50-50 tire.

tett
Title:
Post by: jsingraham on May 14, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
Well, got the Pilot Road's mounted up...I must say they are muuuuuch smoother on the road than the Anakees are.  I am sure the cupping that had started on the front  had something to do with that.  

Only put 50 or so miles on them, but so far I really like them.  just need to get out and rub off the chicken strips now!

Jason
Title:
Post by: brad1098 on May 19, 2010, 05:09:07 PM
looking to replace Tourances in couple months.  Want to go with a 50/50 tire.  Was leaning towards Trailwings, but no reports here on life/performance. Any Scrambler guys out there?

tett where did you get the K60's and how much?  They look good!
Title: Tourance report
Post by: JasonS on May 19, 2010, 05:22:56 PM
At exactly 10k miles i swapped out the Trail Attacks for Tourances. .. The Conti Attck series tires are great in all aspects but one... wear rate, or rather life expectancy.

I paid top dollar for the new set of Tourances in Austin TX while in the middle of a road trip.. I rode from Big Bend Tx to Austin, weaving most of the way to stay off the middle of the tire. After several thousand miles of unavoidable slab and straight west texas roads, the rear was badly flat-spotted.

One year and 7k miles later the Rear Tourance is down to canvas in one spot... ( note that there is tread left on the other side of the tire???)

I weigh in at over 240 and the bike was heavily loaded for the first 3500 miles... so I would bet I could get 8-9 k on local riding, which includes very little slab.

The Tourances do everything I need them to and have worn very well.

I ride too much tar to think about any sort of knobby, but I ride enough gravel etc that I have to run a D/S tire.

The Conti Trail is really a 95% street tire. The Tourance is an 70-80% street in comparison....

All this said, so much of what any of us reports has so much to do with our individual riding styles.. how much twist you ride with ... the types of roads we travel ( texas roads EAT tires) and how we maintain the tires...

My biggest need in my next tire is cost Vs life.. $$$ is tight... I know I will get good long life from the Tourance, but I also would like to spend less than the $153US it takes to buy one...
Title: dirt/gravel road tire
Post by: Hokey1050 on May 25, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
What would be a good choice of tire for riding dirt and gravel roads on an 06 Tiger? I guess I'm looking for one that's maybe 80% pavement 20 gravel. I was thinking about the Heidi's tett bought or the Mefo's but they seem a little to agressive for the 80% pavement.
Title: Re: dirt/gravel road tire
Post by: tett on May 25, 2010, 05:43:10 PM
Don't shy away from the Heidenaus.  They are amazingly quiet on the road given how knobby they are.  This really surprised me.

tett

Quote from: "Hokey1050"What would be a good choice of tire for riding dirt and gravel roads on an 06 Tiger? I guess I'm looking for one that's maybe 80% pavement 20 gravel. I was thinking about the Heidi's tett bought or the Mefo's but they seem a little to agressive for the 80% pavement.
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Post by: BigMark on May 26, 2010, 10:16:11 AM
I had a blow out in france about 3500miles ago and had no other option but a Tourance Roadtec z6 and in the last 3500 miles of pretty much 2 up slab down to Italy and back it has held out really well with only a very barely noticeable leveling across the middle, not noticeable on the handling, still as smooth as through corners and i can run it right over on the edge confidently too..
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Post by: JetdocX on May 28, 2010, 04:02:23 AM
Just rode my new Michelin Anakee II's.  Just a quick test ride to make sure I did everything right.  The front wheel wobble is definitely gone now, so that was due to the Trail Attacks i just wore out.  First impression.... :shock: yikes they turn in quickly!!!!!!!  

Long ride this weekend, I'll report back after.
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Post by: Sin_Tiger on May 30, 2010, 03:55:52 PM
Quote from: "JetdocX"First impression.... :shock: yikes they turn in quickly!!!!!!!  

Yup, don't they just  :D  and they stay there too, enjoy  :wink:
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Post by: JetdocX on June 03, 2010, 05:19:49 AM
800 miles in the last five days while at "work". :roll:

I LOVE these tires.  Rode everything from mud puddles to fire roads to superslab.  To me there is no other option to my Anakee II's. :D

The quick turn-in went away once I wore the molding nubs off.  That or I got used to it. :lol:
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Post by: Hutch on July 01, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
I tried Anakees & Tourances but have gone back to Avon's, a Storm 2 on the rear & a Azzaro on the front, loads of grip in the wet even fully loaded I have done the Stranraer - Carlisle road with the rain coming in sideways with a average speed of 85mph.

They're definitely the dog's in the wet, in fact when I've worn the Pirellis out on the S3 I'll put Avon's on that. :)
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on July 21, 2010, 01:40:23 AM
Quote from: "Hutch"I tried Anakees & Tourances but have gone back to Avon's, a Storm 2 on the rear & a Azzaro on the front, loads of grip in the wet even fully loaded I have done the Stranraer - Carlisle road with the rain coming in sideways with a average speed of 85mph.

They're definitely the dog's in the wet, in fact when I've worn the Pirellis out on the S3 I'll put Avon's on that. :)

Hey Hutch !! i might try that comdo next tyre change !! UK bike = UK tyres

 :D

but at the mo i have just ordered a bridgestone BW502 to replace my rear worn out one, the front is still ok so it made sense to just get a rear as i`m on a tight budget :-(

7K out of the old BW502 !!

KK
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Post by: Hutch on July 21, 2010, 09:59:53 AM
I got 8.5k out of the rear Storm & 13k out of the Azzaro :D
Due to a unexpected puncture on the Speed Triple I now have BT023s on a lot earlier.  :shock: I'll be able to see which ones wear the best, but I've allready done 3.5k on the Tigger & the tyres still look like they've just been scrubbed in
I can reccommend tyre weld for getting you to a dealer, it says top speed 50mph you can go faster but it feels funny :?
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on July 27, 2010, 02:02:14 AM
Quote from: "Hutch"I can reccommend tyre weld for getting you to a dealer, it says top speed 50mph you can go faster but it feels funny :?

I use this stuff......

http://www.ride-on-uk.com/pdf/Motorcycl ... la%201.pdf (http://www.ride-on-uk.com/pdf/Motorcycle%20Formula%201.pdf)

fit new tyre, get it balanced, deflate tyre, put Ride-on in tyre, reflate tyre and ride  :D

KK
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Post by: outrunner on August 08, 2010, 11:12:41 PM
Just fitted a set of Anakee 2's on my 06 yesterday and have only done 170 miles on them but I find no hint of the rapid turn in as reported by others here.  :?  Riding today and yesterday they seem to have the same turning characteristics as the Trail Attacks that came off, am I missing something, or is it because I ride like an old woman?  :oops:  :(



Andy.
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Post by: KuzzinKenny on August 09, 2010, 12:26:41 AM
Quote from: outrunneror is it because I ride like an old woman?  :oops:  :(  Andy.[/quote

i think ya hit the nail on the head they`re Andy  :ImaPoser

its probably not worn the coatin off yet, give them a few more DRY miles !!

hope they last longer than the A1`s  :(  it didn`t mater how i rode my Tigger, it still wore out the centre first  :shock:

KK
Title: Re: Mefo Sport Explorer
Post by: WVdyhrd on September 02, 2010, 04:46:53 AM
Quote from: "matteblack"I have used Mefo Sport Explorer (MFE 99) tires on a KLR before, and really liked them. Decent on the road and not too noisy, but solid on gravel/dirt. Probably more of a 50-50 than an 80-20. Not sure if they would fit on the Tiger, but they do come in 17 and 19". Here is the site:

http://www.mefotyres.com (http://www.mefotyres.com)

(http://www.aviciouscycle.ca/images/Mefo/Mefoexploer100.jpg)
i would kill to get ahold of some that'll fit my tiger :) or k60's but both are terribly difficult to get.

Why is it we are in love with bikes that have the most expensive/limited tire selection?  :cry:
Title: pirelli scorpion trail
Post by: tigergotcha on December 06, 2010, 09:45:48 AM
I used anakee (both I & II)  and pirelli scorpion sync before on my 2006 Girly; now i'm on my first 1k km with pirelli scorpion trail . too early to talk about mileage, but for me they are really the very best so far for road use in both dry and wet conditions

http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/motorcycle/sheet/scorpion_trail.html
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Post by: D-Fuzz on February 08, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
I've been thinking about a set of those Kenda K784 Big Blocks for my Tiger.  I ride about 70/30 pavement.  What are the knobbies going to be like for the 70% on pavement?  I know they will wear more quickly, hence the Kendas.  I currently have Michelin T66s, the front is likely OEM, but the rear is pretty much new, only a few hundred miles on it.
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Post by: Mustang on February 08, 2011, 05:07:49 PM
they won't be as bad as a full blown knobby like the kenda DOT Trackmasters .......but , they are going to give vibration feedback in the handlebars and will probably be noisy , THE TRACKMASTERS , my buddy can hear me coming to his house a mile before I get there .they hum loud !

The 784 does look like a good alternative to a Karoo or a TKC , you will need to learn how hard you can push them on the pavement wet or dry b4 they give up on you though .

If your 30% offroad is mostly fire roads and forest service type of roads , good ol tourances or for less money the Shinko 705's work really well. and you get good hiway mileage out of them .
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Post by: D-Fuzz on February 08, 2011, 06:24:14 PM
That is pretty much what my 30% off-road consists of, nothing too outrageous.  I rode my DR650 pretty much everywhere with Michelin Anakees on it and never had a problem.  I know the Tiger is a much bigger bike and am a bit more concerned about the chance of the front washing out more than the traction at the rear.

I thought for the price ($190/set) I could try the Kendas.  That said, there is a better chance of me riding on the pavment in the rain than there is me riding through thick, goopy mud, so maybe the Shinkos are a better choice.  I am not an overly aggressive rider, so I doubt I would ever reach the limits of either tire.
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Post by: Mustang on February 08, 2011, 06:34:45 PM
Steamers don't like mud or sugar sand regardless of  what sneakers they wear ! :shock:
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Post by: motero26 on February 09, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
I used to use 100x100 asphalt contiroadattack 2 of continental perfect for your favorite section and even circuit curves are perfect and water also work well just hope I last longer than contiroadattack 1 that I endured only 6000km and then snapped
(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/5498/continental15070r17mc69.jpg) (http://img547.imageshack.us/i/continental15070r17mc69.jpg/)

http://www.soymotero.net/contiroadattac ... ontinental (http://www.soymotero.net/contiroadattack-2-el-nuevo-neumatico-de-uso-mixto-de-continental)
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Post by: NeilD on February 09, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
Hmm the Conti RA2 looks interesting.. the most 'off road' I go is across a camping field, was so was considering road tyres this time... look to be about the same price as Tourances here, anyone else tried 'em and got an idea of how long they last?
Title: Re: Dunlop Trailmax
Post by: Putts255 on February 18, 2011, 06:10:19 AM
Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"
Quote from: "Colonel Nikolai"My 96 Steamer has a set of Dunlop Trailmax on them. Just noticed the sidewalls have some hairline cracks in them so I'll be changing them soon. I have no idea how old they are.

This might help !!

http://www.amadirectlink.com/roadride/R ... /tires.asp (http://www.amadirectlink.com/roadride/Riderresc/tires.asp)

KK

Link not working anymore.  Try this one.

http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/Riding/Street/Resources/TireDesignations.aspx
Title: Continental Trail Attack...
Post by: Basri... on February 23, 2011, 09:21:54 AM
It has been 7 months and 2500 km since i put new Conti Tarail Attacks on my Steamer..

These are the ones:

(http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/ss163/bmwboxer/trailattack.jpg)

I always have been using Metzeller Tourances or Tourance EXPs, but, this time only for 50 Dollars difference prefered Trail Attacks..

What a big, deadly mistake.. :BangHead

Since the first day i put them on;

Bike dives at low speeds, it is shimmy, at higher speeds, have to spend extra attention to keep the bike on a straight line and many other negative effects..

They both are 2010 production..

Definately it is the tyres, checked ewerything else, 100% sure..

The old 8 yrs old Dunlops on it were much better..

I am not the ony one who complains about them:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthre ... ail+attack (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363642&highlight=continental+trail+attack)

Most people are happy with them, but, my advice, if anyone planning to put Trail Attcaks on his bike, please think twice..
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Post by: NKL on February 23, 2011, 11:36:07 AM
I run these on my Tiger and are fantastic tires, I know some tires don't suite some bikes but you should try playing with the pressures, its amazing what a couple of psi will do.
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 23, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
I was thinking the same.  When I first switched from a squared off Anakee to Pirelli MT90s my first thoughts were, OMG what have I done?  The bike felt like it was on a knife edge all the time and oversteered everywhere.

After a few days (and putting the tyre pressures exactly as they should be) I realised that it was oversteering because I was used to wrestling the squared-off tyre into every turn and that in fact the tyres were very neutral and quick steering.   Once I got used to the light touch and sharp handling, I got to enjoy them to the point where for a whole summer I never once entered a corner wondering if the rubber was going to stick - it just did.  Turned out to be the best tyres I'd ever had on the Tiger.  Not quite so good in the wet, but still very predictable.
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Post by: Timbox2 on February 24, 2011, 11:20:28 AM
When I got the Bike last year it had Tourances, cant complain really but tried the Conti TA2's when change time came. Couldnt fault the handling and grip and the rear did 6500, but the front also was gone at 6500. So, back to a pair of Tourances, the rear managed 7500 and the front finally went at 10000.

Im now running Anakee II's and the wet weather grip is brilliant but wear looks fairly brisk, the backs now done 3000 and has gone from 8mm to 4mm in the centre, so on that estimation Im looking at maybe 4500/5000 tops.

Think Tourances will be back on next time, so far the best mix of grip/longevity.
Title: How old is too old?
Post by: Putts255 on February 24, 2011, 08:22:54 PM
So I am going to be moving a few things around in the shed this weekend and will finally take the time to look at the manufacture date of the tires.  

Opinion, how old is too old?  If it shows a manufacturer date older than lets say 2008 should I change them?

They are Metzler's on there right now and have a lot of tread left but I need to feel confident the tires will be good for all the riding I will be doing this coming season.  2 trips already planned and another possible 1 week trip through the Britsh Colombia mountains....I hope!

Cheers and thanks!
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Post by: Basri... on February 25, 2011, 09:41:09 AM
Regarding my complaints about Conti Attacks;

After your comments on the subject, i have been thinking, did i do any other changes on the bike at the time i put new Conti Attacks on ?

Yes, i did, also put 1,5 inch tall handle bar risers same day i changed the tyres..

Today i removed the risers, most complaints gone..

But,

Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"The bike felt like it was on a knife edge all the time and oversteered everywhere.

Still have this feeling.. :D
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Post by: NKL on February 26, 2011, 01:01:47 AM
I had exactly te same issue as Bixxer Bob when I changed squared off Anakees to Contis but soon got used to it, I've doe about 4500 miles on them now and the rear only looks about half worn and the front looks lke new (how does it grip so well?) Could only get about 4500 miles out of a rear Anakee
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on February 26, 2011, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: "Basri..."
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"The bike felt like it was on a knife edge all the time and oversteered everywhere.

Still have this feeling.. :D

You'll get used to it eventually...... :wink:
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Post by: Stretch on July 21, 2011, 10:30:16 PM
Received via email just a couple days ago...

------------------------------------

Stretch,

Wife and I flew to Seattle, purchased an 05 Tiger from fellow ADV rider, good transaction. It had a new set of Shinko tires. Got to a friends home in St. Louis, 2,000 miles, had buddy sit on bike so I could check chain tension. Rear tire, every "block" was torn on two sides, a small screwdriver went in crack over quarter of inch!
Another ADV had a Bridgestone in "stock" at his home, threw that on, no worries. Ran 42 psi at modest speeds but high air temps. This may prevent someone getting hurt.
 
Thanks
 
Brian

-----------------------------


Thought you would like to know.

Stay safe.
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Post by: Sasquatch on August 31, 2011, 04:03:03 AM
Tires are kind of a sore subject with me.  At 380# on a loaded Tigger and a very heavy throttle hand, I tend to shred tires rather quickly.  The following are my opinions:

2001 955i

Shinko 705 (radials):  Good handling in all conditions, best "street" tire off pavement I have ridden.  Front rides a bit rough due to the tread blocks (at low speeds).  Price is very cheap for these tires.  I have been through 3 rears and one front.  Front lasted 10k miles, but the most I got out of the rear is 3,800 miles.  Will not run these again.  They may be cheap and work good, but I simply can not find a bargain in a tire that only lasts 3800 miles.

Continental Trail Attack:  10k out of a front, 7500 out of the rears.  So far my favorite tires.  Work fantastic on the pavement and tolerable off pavement.  The tire I am currently running.

Tourance:  I ran these when the bike was new.  Went through a couple of sets of them.  Always had a bit of the "tourance weave" out of the front tire.  Worked well enough on and off pavement, but the weave drove me nuts.
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Post by: Mustang on August 31, 2011, 04:38:12 AM
Tires are a lot like oil ..everybody has their own preference  :shock:
what works for one person somebody else will hate . :D

Just sayin ................
let's talk sidecar tug , I can't get a rear motorcycle tire to last more than 3000 miles no matter what brand or size , next up , going to the dark side with an 195/45 /17 CAR tire . I think it's going to work well into the 20 k range  :D

I've had dunlops maxxis contis pirellis tourances shinkos on the three steamers over the years and rears always wear out two to one for the front , no matter what brand . dunlop and maxxis were the worst .

and no matter what brand the front will eventually cup so bad that it gets binned long before it's bald . again dunlop gets the worst rating for cupping .

it's the nature of the beast  :D
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Post by: D-Fuzz on September 04, 2011, 12:36:40 AM
I've been running Mitas E-07 tires on my Tigger and have been really happy with them.  Similar to the Heidenau tires people rave about.  I have about 4000 miles on mine and am really happy with the way they are holding up.  They are a little noisy on the pavement but still perform well and they are good off-pavement as well.
Title: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: ChazzyB on March 28, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: "TigerTrax"3. The new Anakee 2 radial tires are really nice. I had always run bias-belt
    tires ... there is a difference. Softer ride.  I'll have the whole story when it's time to replace them.

I've been using Anakee 2 for a couple of changes now. I get about 6K from a rear (possibly more), which isn't bad, as I don't spare the horses, as a rule.
Title: Tires - really do matter
Post by: NZDeano on May 11, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
Not wanting to state the obvious here for those who have had their tigers for years and been through many sets of rubber. For those who haven't, my experience might be of interest.
Purchased 2003 Girly, beautiful little bike with only 11,000km on it. It had Metzler Tourances on (told these are the top tire). These were worn though. The guy I got it off must have ridden straight lines only, because the centre was gone, but the sides had heaps. Now, here I am on my new tiger expecting to have fun and just could not get my confidence going. I am a reasonably experienced rider (30 yrs) but the bike gave me no confidence leaning into corners and I drove everywhere like an old lady. I even placed a thread on here called "Are Tigers more likely to slide" Everone that replied to me said a big fat "NO" Comments like 'mine squats like a sumo wrestler coming out of corners' really started making me think that something was wrong with my bike or me, because even on the way to the shop about 250km away, the rear end stepped out twice on me (very un-nerving) One step out it jumped ut about 6" sideways. Then during a recent service where we upgraded the pipe, new tune etc, we put new rubber on it. Of all the tires on offer I ended up opting for a set of Shinko (cheap price). Everyone said 'too cheap, can't be any good' After fitting and scrubbing in I went for long ride over tall winding mountain roads and had some of the best fun I have ever had on a motor bike. Now this bike really does handle. With the new pipe & race tune, a full service, metal fuel fittings, new tires, crashbars (yet to go on) and some other nice farkles, I LOVE THIS BIKE. I reckon these are the most underated bike around in its class. But the real lesson is that I would not have said that with the rubber like it was at the time I purchased it. Just incase you ask, the test ride when I purchased it was on city streets, so the problem didnt show up. I think this type of bike with open back end (single shock) long swing arm, heaps of rear wheel H.P. really depend on having exceptionaly good tread out back, more so than other bikes I have owned. I now understand why Tiger riders feel like they have discovered a secret no one else much knows about. It is going so well.
Title: Re: Tires - really do matter
Post by: iansoady on May 11, 2012, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: "NZDeano"Purchased 2003 Girly, beautiful little bike with only 11,000km on it.

I just wondered what you considered a "big bike".... :?:
Title: Re: Tires - really do matter
Post by: 2004Tiger on May 11, 2012, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: "NZDeano"... I reckon these are the most underated bike around in its class. ...
You got that right!!
My worn out Tourances cornered very well, don't know what happened to yours. Perhaps the rubber was old, stiff, slick? For an old tire I have sometimes, on the center stand, run in 2nd gear and apply a rasp or an angle grinder to the old rubber to expose fresh rubber. Temporary fix.
Title: Re: Tires - really do matter
Post by: NZDeano on May 12, 2012, 04:44:06 AM
Quote from: "iansoady"
Quote from: "NZDeano"Purchased 2003 Girly, beautiful little bike with only 11,000km on it.

I just wondered what you considered a "big bike".... :?:

Slip of the tounge actually Ian, will watch my wording more closely. I really should have just said "beautiful bike" It's definetely not a little bike. I sat on an new 800 XC the other day, that didn't feel all that much smaller either. Wonder if the 1200 feels big.
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Post by: jphish on May 12, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
Tourances are pretty good rubber - never tried Shinko's. But for my $, the Anakee2's wear well, and excellent in the curvy parts.
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Post by: vince on May 13, 2012, 09:04:06 PM
sorry to join in with my two pennies
just replaced my annakees with bridgestone 023's as i don't go off road
first impressions they roll well into corners, less road noise and a bit softer ride seem to stick well and no wobble in corners
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Post by: NZDeano on May 14, 2012, 05:36:00 AM
Quote from: "vince"sorry to join in with my two pennies
just replaced my annakees with bridgestone 023's as i don't go off road
first impressions they roll well into corners, less road noise and a bit softer ride seem to stick well and no wobble in corners

Don't be sorry Vince, your two pennies are worth the same value as any others. Have made a note of bridgestone 023's.
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Post by: HamrenDan on May 15, 2012, 06:23:57 PM
So which Shinko tires did you go with?
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Post by: Mustang on May 15, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
Quote from: "HamrenDan"So which Shinko tires did you go with?
My guess would be 705's
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Post by: Yankee Dog on May 16, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
I put a set of 705 on mine. They handled great, wet or dry, pavement or gravel. But I burned through the rear tire in about 3000 miles. The front is still hanging in there. I do believe the it will last until 8 or 10000. The rear is now a Pilot Road 3 by the way.
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Post by: NZDeano on May 18, 2012, 01:04:48 AM
Quote from: "Mustang"
Quote from: "HamrenDan"So which Shinko tires did you go with?
My guess would be 705's

Yep! Man you guy's know your tires. 705's it is. I guess rear tire longevity could be an issue with these. The comparison on price was $308NZ for both front & rear fitted and balanced. Most other brands on offer were that price for a rear tire only.
Thinking back about my original thread comment I dont beleive there was anything inherently wrong with the worn Tourances, but more to the point that the way they were worn. Having that flat centre it seemed to leave a real smooth (no tread) point on the tire right at that critical roll over point as you lean into the corner. So if you got a stone on the road right on that roll over point, sideways she would go. Again, I think the long swing arm, single shock, high HP design seemed to amplify the problem.
Just one mans thoughts on it.
Title: Tires or Tyres
Post by: Champy on May 28, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
Used to believe in Tourances, and they were very good in the wet.

That is until I tried a set of Continental ContiTrail Attack.

Wow. Straight lining was as if the bike was on rails, and the cornering just perfect. One hero blob gone, and the other worn down big time.

Just increases confidence so much!
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Post by: fnjeep314 on June 13, 2012, 07:54:39 AM
The PO installed Metzler Touraces on the rear, and some Dunlop that was too big on the front. I just replaced the front with a Heidenau K76. I only have a few hundred miles on it, I noticed a difference in how more solid the bike felt right away. When the rear wears out, I am going to replace the Metzler with the rear Heidenau K76.

(http://www.motorradreifen-preisfuchs.de/images/heidenau-k76.jpg)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499030
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Post by: Bixxer Bob on June 13, 2012, 11:14:32 AM
There was a leaflet in this month's Bike mag for Maxxis tyres. I've not ridden on them, but they carry a very good selection of tyres from road to extreme offroad.  Anyone used them?

http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Off-road.aspx (http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Off-road.aspx)

http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Street.aspx (http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Street.aspx)
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Post by: Mustang on June 13, 2012, 04:19:25 PM
Quote from: "Bixxer Bob"There was a leaflet in this month's Bike mag for Maxxis tyres. I've not ridden on them, but they carry a very good selection of tyres from road to extreme offroad.  Anyone used them?

http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Off-road.aspx (http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Off-road.aspx)

http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Street.aspx (http://www.maxxis.com/MotorcycleATV/Street.aspx)
I've used the Desert IT knobbies on my 450 honda great tire wore like iron (even road on tarmac with it) good traction .

Tried the Presa Detours on my steamer , while they handled good the rear wore out smooth as a babys bottom in (absolutely no tread left )5000 miles . and the front cupped (no surprise there)
was on a road trip from east coast usa to west coast and back .

Didn't think I was going to make it back home but in there defense they made the last couple thousand miles home (7000 total) with no tread at all .
Good thing it didn't rain   :lol:
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Post by: TigerT on June 21, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
New tyres required for bike. Last set were Bridgestone trailwing which have been ok but not particularly long lasting. I have used tourance before which were good but tempted by continental trail attack but will they match the metzlers for mileage?
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Post by: Champy on June 22, 2012, 08:59:03 AM
I used to get around 8k on rear and 12k on front when I ran Tourances.

Conti's are a little less at 6k rear and 10k front, but are so good, I am happy to live with that!
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Post by: Spud on June 22, 2012, 09:29:07 AM
I love "anakee" for my 6 year old Tiger. I get reasonable mileage out of them also.

On a side note and not to hijack the thread.....


 I have been pricing up the cost of shipping my bike out to the "south island" for a trip, as hiring was looking a tad expensive.

Cheers Spud  :wink:
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Post by: BigDan on June 22, 2012, 11:10:06 AM
I've done 7k so far on my set of Anakees and still going strong. Hoping to get 10k out of them before a change

2006 tiger 955
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Post by: NZDeano on June 23, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
Quote from: "Spud"I love "anakee" for my 6 year old Tiger. I get reasonable mileage out of them also.

On a side note and not to hijack the thread.....


 I have been pricing up the cost of shipping my bike out to the "south island" for a trip, as hiring was looking a tad expensive.

Cheers Spud  :wink:

Hey Spud, how did you go on that pricing of shipping your bike out? I can only say that regardless of cost, the countryside and scenery wont dissapoint.
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Post by: Spud on June 23, 2012, 10:17:00 AM
looking at about £1600 and the price of the import bond at 15% to get it in to the country, so I may look at hiring again.

i have already been twice and toured in a car but really want to do it on a bike a nice figure of 8 around both north and south islands. cheers spud  :wink:
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Post by: oxnsox on June 24, 2012, 10:49:14 AM
Had Tourances on the Girly when I got her, now running Conti Trail attcks... Fist time I've worn a tyre to the edge, but then maybe thats just me getting more familiar with her   :lol:   Gave me the confidence to ride thru the hills (Whangamoas) after a cold and icy spell with plenty of Grit on the road. Something I wouldn't have even thought about not so many years back.

On the OT. When you looking at coming down this way Spud?
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Post by: kiwijohn on June 25, 2012, 02:36:38 PM
Quote from: "Spud"looking at about £1600 and the price of the import bond at 15% to get it in to the country, so I may look at hiring again.

i have already been twice and toured in a car but really want to do it on a bike a nice figure of 8 around both north and south islands. cheers spud  :wink:

You could look at buying and selling whle over there. Could work out cheaper.
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Post by: oxnsox on June 26, 2012, 11:00:51 AM
Quote from: "kiwijohn"You could look at buying and selling whle over there. Could work out cheaper.
Yeah...Nah
Yes Buying and selling would be cheaper but reality is you're unlikely to sell it on quickly. Although you maybe able to sort out a buy-back deal with a dealer...
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Post by: Spud on June 26, 2012, 02:57:40 PM
Mrs family are from near Gore so I could leave a bike there for them to sell on for me, it might be an Idea. cheers Spud  :wink:
Title: Tyres
Post by: Spud on August 16, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
Yes I know....

I am just about to put some new boots on for my trip to france I plan on doing about 3000 miles, I usually use Anakees and love them, but has anyone used the roadpilot ?

cheers Spud  :wink:
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Post by: daveb on August 16, 2012, 12:45:56 PM
nope, the current Anakee 2 on the rear its covered about 5,500 miles so far.

I have used Metzler tourance, another good tyre - but I prefer Anakee 2

so doubt if my reply help
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Post by: vince on August 16, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
don't know wether this will help
put bridgestone 023's on before my trip in june and did 2600 miles whilst away and i'm no expert but they out performed me gone has the high speeed wobble on long sweeping corners, holds the road well, hardley any chicken strip, grips well in the wet as well, to me they suit the bike fully loaded or not, bike seem's to be more agile and stable, turns in quicker.
thats in my oppinion others might say different, they seem to have worn well am noting the milage it looks like i'll get in excess of 6000 miles out of them don't know wether thats good or bad i'm sure someone might have a comment on that sort of milage
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Post by: Spud on August 17, 2012, 08:34:42 AM
Did a web search and found some interesting stuff about dual compound tyres, some of the photo's showing the cupping that can happen was erm interesting.
I think I'll stick to Anakee's

cheers spud  :wink:
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Post by: Chris Canning on August 17, 2012, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: "Spud"Did a web search and found some interesting stuff about dual compound tyres, some of the photo's showing the cupping that can happen was erm interesting.
I think I'll stick to Anakee's

cheers spud  :wink:

I'd be interested to see that,particularly if their not Michelins.
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Post by: jphish on August 17, 2012, 02:54:03 PM
I believe Anakee2s also a dual compound tire (?) I know the PR3's are. Have run both. The PR's are an excellent, long mileage, (10+K rear) all weather (no snow) road tire. But the Girly sometimes automatically / ocassionally  turns on to dirt roads without my permission - so generally prefer Anakees2s for their moderate DS capabilities. I got almost 8K out of the last rear.
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Post by: BigDan on August 17, 2012, 07:37:23 PM
Most tyres are dual compound, you'd be unlikely to find single-compound road tyres these days
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Post by: Spud on August 17, 2012, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: "Chris Canning"
Quote from: "Spud"Did a web search and found some interesting stuff about dual compound tyres, some of the photo's showing the cupping that can happen was erm interesting.
I think I'll stick to Anakee's

cheers spud  :wink:

I'd be interested to see that,particularly if their not Michelins.

I just did a web search for dual compound tyres and vids came up cheers Spud  :wink:
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Post by: Chris Canning on August 17, 2012, 10:42:20 PM
High mileage dual compound Michs have a habit of doing it because of the steel strip they put in e'm,I had a pair of PR2's do it with heaps of wear left on e'm,but I've never seen that happen with any other tyre,single or dual compound.
Title: Re: Tyres
Post by: JTT on August 23, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
So the Anakees don't cup?  I searched for the vids with no success  unfortunately, but have a few badly cupped fronts in my trash pile.
Title: Re: Tyres
Post by: metalguru on August 23, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
Had Pilot Road 2 and 3. Can't fault them for anything and the wet grip has more courage than I do.
No cupping yet on any of the PRs.
Title: Re: Tyres
Post by: vince on August 23, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Quote from: "JTT"So the Anakees don't cup?

mine cupped quite badly only did 7000 miles before i put the bridgestones 023's on 3,00miles no cupping yet, might be to early to tell
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: deepsouthtiger on September 09, 2012, 02:53:26 AM
I have been running these for over a year. Shinko 705's. Previously ran Michelin and Conti's
Considering a set of Shinkos cost less than 1 rear Anakee, I am SOLD on these.
Truth be told, they do cause a small vibration at parking lot speeds. I attributed that to the "knobbier" pattern than the other tires I had.  Not a real issue, you get used to it.  On the highway, dry or wet, gravel and fire roads they are every bit as good as tires costing waaaay more.
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/keystiger/Unknown-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Red Lion on September 19, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
I just did a search on the Shinko 705's as I'll be needing new tyres soon, but was shocked to find that they seem to be attracting a lot of negative attention.
See the following for details:
http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-2004-2011-%5B-wee-strom-%5D/51883-how-you-liking-your-shinko-705s-8.html (http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650-2004-2011-%5B-wee-strom-%5D/51883-how-you-liking-your-shinko-705s-8.html)
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116429 (http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116429)
http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276646 (http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276646)
http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248053 (http://www.vtxoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248053)
It seems that their might be a bit of a delamination problem across the Shinko range.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Mustang on September 19, 2012, 08:38:11 PM
all of those posts are a year or more old ........................just sayin'

shinko is supposed to have corrected the problem with the 705 radials , the early ones from those posts were bias ply

having said that I ran a bias ply on my steamers rear end for 10,000 miles and the tread blocks showed no sign of cracks until at 10k I switched it over to the side hack to finish it off , YMMV
the front went 15 k easy and still lots of life left .

Tigger 1 has shinkos 705 on it as we speak and so does tigger 4 , tigger 2 has shinko raven on front , no problems and tigger 3 (the hack) has a shinko raven on the rear that has held up the best so far , compared to tires like continental and dunlops and tourances .
you can't always believe what you read in forums  :5huh
yeah I got 4 steamers ..I'm kinda goofy like that  :love10

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee47/2uoykcuf/DSC_0182.jpg)

I like them I use them .
Shinkos are not the only ones that do it .
heres a shot of a 150 dollar front  tourance by Metzler that I lifted from advrider , what do you see ........yep cracks around the treadblock
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m-YY6f_aDT0/UFD3CqHOSDI/AAAAAAABQB8/AWyxGJkK_Hk/s1024/2012-09-12%252015.45.24.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: daveb on October 06, 2012, 12:49:02 PM
just changed the Anakee 2 on the rear after 7,300 miles, more than pleased about 1mm left before tyre bars, so replaced with another Anakee 2.

front also replaced to anakee 2, had a metzeler tourance on the front. still loads of life left but lost confidence in this tyre as some times great grip in heavey rain or dry roads but as it starts to rain it felt vauge.

so cut my losses and changed both.
Title: Re:
Post by: Chad on October 07, 2012, 11:19:55 PM
ive decided to chance my arm on a set of these  from mynemoto germany £144 deliverd :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap





Quote from: fnjeep314 on June 13, 2012, 07:54:39 AM
The PO installed Metzler Touraces on the rear, and some Dunlop that was too big on the front. I just replaced the front with a Heidenau K76. I only have a few hundred miles on it, I noticed a difference in how more solid the bike felt right away. When the rear wears out, I am going to replace the Metzler with the rear Heidenau K76.

(http://www.motorradreifen-preisfuchs.de/images/heidenau-k76.jpg)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499030 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499030)
Title: Re: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: gilly527 on October 09, 2012, 03:39:39 AM
I have Metzeler Tourance on the front and back right now... I am thinking about exploring other options this next time I'm due to change, the front is about done right now.

What are the draws of the Anakee's over the Tourance's or vice versa?
Title: Re: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: cosmo on October 09, 2012, 03:50:05 AM
Not sure Anakee vs Tourance, but this is my experience with Michies: The first set of Anakees, supplied with the bike (natch) lasted 16,000 miles, with both wearing out at the same time. And I mean just to the wear bars, not to the cord.

The second set lasted 16,000 miles, though I recall one was a II.

The third set had to be Bridgestone Battlewings, as Anakees were on BO. These are not to the wear bars yet at 14,000 miles.

Maybe I'm not aggresive enough, maybe the Tigger is just easy on tyres, maybe I'm just getting on to old. Fact is, I just rolled 46,000 miles on this '06 Girly, and I'm just thinking about purchasing my fourth set of tyres.

Oh, yeah, impressions from the mild one: The Skidstones felt a bit more planted than the Anakees, but only a smidge.

Cosmo
Title: Tourance EXP
Post by: gilly527 on October 16, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
I have Tourance tires on my Girly right now and am thinking of something a little more road oriented for my next tire as that is where the majority of my riding is, while still wanting some tire ability for offroad. Which brings me to the question, is anybody running Tourance EXP tires on their Girly, and if so, do you like them?

From the sounds of things that I have been reading about them they sound like a great tire but I want to know first hand from anybody on our bike what they are like if anyone is running them.

I am also open to other suggestions for tires too...
Title: Re: Tourance EXP
Post by: Bixxer Bob on October 17, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
You'll get loads of preferences Gilly, just like I'm about to.  I was in your position and went for a totally unknown at the time, , Pirelli Scorpion Trails. They are very road biased but, in the two sets I've had, I've never had a butt-clenching moment with them, wet or dry.   On tarmac they grip like the proverbial.  They are much sharper steering than the block treads but also much smoother and quieter.  I hadn't realised how much till I fitted a set of Tourances recently when I couldn't get PSTs.  Can't wait to go back to them.
Title: Re: Tourance EXP
Post by: tigergotcha on October 17, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on October 17, 2012, 11:29:34 AM
You'll get loads of preferences Gilly, just like I'm about to.  I was in your position and went for a totally unknown at the time, , Pirelli Scorpion Trails. They are very road biased but, in the two sets I've had, I've never had a butt-clenching moment with them, wet or dry.   On tarmac they grip like the proverbial.  They are much sharper steering than the block treads but also much smoother and quieter.  I hadn't realised how much till I fitted a set of Tourances recently when I couldn't get PSTs.  Can't wait to go back to them.

Scorpion Trails are very good road biased tyres - I've had three sets and really enjoyed them. Sharp steering, very good overall grip, decent on gravel (not flying on it of course...). And also mileage on average (10k km for me, rear wearing faster as usual, but with less difference with front than other tyres - which should mean softer front/better front grip).

Pirelli had some problems on first batches more than two years ago, so check manufacturing date on the tyres before buying. Second half 2011 and 2012 are 100% ok.
Title: Re: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: gilly527 on October 18, 2012, 04:52:10 AM
So you're preference is the Anakee II by the sounds of things. It seems a lot of people run those on our tigers..

oes there happen to be a comprehensive tire thread on this forum where everyone has chipped in on what they run on their Tiger and what they like dislike about them bearing in mind their riding style? I tried to ask a question about tourance vs the tourance exp the other day hoping that someone on here would see it and comment on it if they are running the exp's but my thread was deleted... Thanks to whomever did that...
Title: Re: Re: New Anakee 2
Post by: Mustang on October 18, 2012, 06:14:49 AM
Quote from: gilly527 on October 18, 2012, 04:52:10 AM
I tried to ask a question about tourance vs the tourance exp the other day hoping that someone on here would see it and comment on it if they are running the exp's but my thread was deleted... Thanks to whomever did that...
:wave
Title: Re:
Post by: Chad on October 19, 2012, 08:41:05 PM
well they have arrived and are fitted
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/GSchad_photos/FA758993-7FAF-45C8-8D18-512136AF06CC-7389-0000097CB238FEF4.jpg)

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/GSchad_photos/8AE6FCCB-23F1-4F84-BFF8-D78F45553ACD-7389-0000097CABDEFD4C.jpg)

i have to say im quite taken with them , the bike feels nice and nimble at low speeds and when your getting a lick on they feel very stable and planted :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

all in all happy so far

Quote from: Chad on October 07, 2012, 11:19:55 PM
ive decided to chance my arm on a set of these  from mynemoto germany £144 deliverd :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap





Quote from: fnjeep314 on June 13, 2012, 07:54:39 AM
The PO installed Metzler Touraces on the rear, and some Dunlop that was too big on the front. I just replaced the front with a Heidenau K76. I only have a few hundred miles on it, I noticed a difference in how more solid the bike felt right away. When the rear wears out, I am going to replace the Metzler with the rear Heidenau K76.

(http://www.motorradreifen-preisfuchs.de/images/heidenau-k76.jpg)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499030 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499030)
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: VM-BASIC on November 17, 2012, 08:07:34 PM
Hi Everbody.
Just a quick word about Avon Distanzias. I fitted new front and rear in May this year. Ran the tyres at Triumph recommended pressures, 36/42. Most of the riding was a straight commute up and down the very straight and boring Highway 1 here in sunny Alberta, with weekend hunts for twisties with Mrs VM perched on back. Was giving the old girl a once over in mid Sept, when I noticed that the front Distanzia had cracks around 75% of the sidewall on the right hand side and about 50% of the left. In a couple of spots these cracks were deep enough to expose chords in sidewall. I immeidiatley VOR`d the beast and contacted the retailer, Canadas Motorcycle in Ontario. They got me to post the offending rubber to them for a warrenty claim. While all this arguing about warranty was going on, I was bikeless, so bit the bullet and bought a Tourance front.
Doing a google search of Distanzia sidewall cracking, found articles going back to 2005 highlighting this problem, which strangely only affects the front, rear is fine, if a little squared off, (Damn straight Highways......).
Cutting to the chase, Canadas motorcycle refunded me the purchase cost of the Avon, so a big up to them for customer service. Damn Canadian weather has stopped me from putting more than a couple of 100 K on the new rubber so will see how it fairs. I am expecting reasonable performance juding by others comments though.
So be warned, Avon have not solved the Distanzia front tyre problem yet.
Title: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 06:21:42 PM
I'm thinking of fitting a pair of Road tyres on my 05 Girly (cast wheels)
I've seen these on ebay

Front . . Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . .Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 150/70 R17 69V

£190 + £6.95 delivery for the pair

Any reason why I shouldn't?
I don't ride off road (not deliberately :new_all_coholic)
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: iansoady on April 04, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
But how will you get of those muddy campsites?
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: iansoady on April 04, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
But how will you get of those muddy campsites?
The last two campsites I've had to walk beside the bike to get off the field so figure the 80/20 tyres aren't very good in mud, so why not go for a full road touring tyre. I had a front wheel slide Sunday when lent well over, I blame the knobbly edge of the tyre (I know I was going too fast for the bend but IMHO the tyre should have held it better).
Presently she has a Battlewing on the rear (that'll soon need replacing) and what might be the original Tourance tyre on the front (If that's what Triumph fitted).
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Dutch on April 04, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Fross on April 04, 2013, 06:21:42 PM
Any reason why I shouldn't?
Maybe because you are also considering other road tires like Dunlop Roadsmart or Michelin Pilot Road ?
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: vince on April 04, 2013, 07:44:41 PM
got 023's on my 955i and they are pretty good  :hat10
hold well in wet or dry  :thumbsup
3000 miles so far and they look about half worn
havn't realy pushed them yet but no chicken strip  :hat10



Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: Dutch on April 04, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Fross on April 04, 2013, 06:21:42 PM
Any reason why I shouldn't?
Maybe because you are also considering other road tires like Dunlop Roadsmart or Michelin Pilot Road ?
I can't find a Michlen Pilot Road made in 19" front wheel size?
I've looked at the Dunlop site and couldn't find the right sizes there either so gave up on Dunlop, What are suitable Dunlop road tyres for a cast wheel Girly?
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: vince on April 04, 2013, 07:44:41 PM
got 023's on my 955i and they are pretty good  :hat10
hold well in wet or dry 

Hi Vince, thanks for letting me know that. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Dutch on April 04, 2013, 08:01:11 PM
For whatever reason they are not on .com, but .eu shows them nicely. Probably something likewise with Michelin.
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.eu/dunlop_euen/mc/tyres/on_road/Sportmax_Roadsmart.jsp
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 08:27:14 PM
Thanks Dutch, it's strange they don't list them on the site I was looking on.  I can use the code number along with tyre sizes to get a quote. Cheers :thumbsup
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 04, 2013, 09:05:37 PM
I've made a list of the tyre choices that are available at the present time. Have I missed any? :doubt

Front . . . . . . . Michelin Anakee 110/80 R19 59V
Rear  . . . . . . . Michelin Anakee 150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . . . Bridgestone Trailwing 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Bridgestone Trailwing 150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . . . Avon Distanzia 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Avon Distanzia 150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . . . Maxxis Presa Detour MA-PD 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Maxxis Presa Detour MA-PD  150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . . . Dunlop TRAILMAX TR91 110/80 R19 59V code 622498
Rear . . . . . . .  Dunlop TRAILMAX TR91 150/70 R17 69V code 622497
OR
Front . . . . . . . Bridgestone Battlax T30 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Bridgestone Battlax T30 150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . . . Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Bridgestone Battlax BT-023 150/70 R17 69V
   (ebay £190 + £6.95 delivery for a pair)
OR
Front . . . . . . . Pirelli Scorpion Trail 110/80 R19 59V
Rear . . . . . . . Pirelli Scorpion Trail 150/70 R17 69V
OR
Front . . . . . .Dunlop SPMAX ROADSMART 110/80R19 59V code 624298
Rear . . . . . . Dunlop SPMAX ROADSMART 150/70R17 69V code 624292
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Dutch on April 05, 2013, 08:14:23 AM
You missed the Michelin Pilot Road. If you go to http://motorradreifen.de/reifensuche.php and select the Triumph -> 955 -> Tiger (gussrad) (cast wheel) you get a really good list.
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Fross on April 05, 2013, 09:22:02 AM
Thanks Dutch, that site has the whole lot, now I just have to decide what to buy :thumbsup
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: metalguru on April 05, 2013, 01:37:32 PM
Got Pilot Road 3s on mine and have no complaints at all, the wet grip is really good. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Bluto on April 05, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
don't see Metzler Tourance on your list....they work great on the road in my experience and are long lived too
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: Spud on April 06, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
Not tried myself yet but the new Anakee 3 are getting good write up's and reviews cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: mat-tiger1 on April 23, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
Just on Anakee II's at the minute, no complaints so far, but it's such a personal thing!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Road Tyres
Post by: PeteH on April 23, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
Quote from: Bluto on April 05, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
don't see Metzler Tourance on your list....they work great on the road in my experience and are long lived too

Ditto that :thumbsup

Also, no mention of Avon Azaro or Storm? both road orientated, Storm is rear only but can run with Azaro front. Sometimes its best just to go with a tyre that you like look of.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: recroy on April 25, 2013, 02:39:01 AM
I have conti twinduro's on right now. I live on Vancouver Island and there's too many logging roads to explore without some tread under you! The rear is going to need replacing in the next month or so and I've decided on a kenda big block. Any comments would be appreciated. I like the conti's but the kenda is 1/2 the price and I've had good luck with them on my transalp.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Sin_Tiger on April 29, 2013, 11:54:42 PM
You might want to check the load rating, the Girly is a bit heavieTransalp.
Title: Favorite tyres?
Post by: HeavyHustler on July 30, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
I have been looking at tyres recently and being new to the DS riding I was wondering what everyones favorite tyre was?  Best mileage?  Best tubes?  And of course what to stay away from!
TIA!
Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: HeavyHustler on July 30, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
Forgot to ask if anyone is using Metz Karoo 3 tyres?  They look the business!!!!
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: Spud on July 30, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
I've just had my bike MOT'd and pick up a nail on the way, the tyre has about 3 mm on it so may repair and am looking for replacement, I've always run Anakee 2's but am seriously looking at the 3's, always liked the 2's though.

cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: Mustang on July 30, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
 Tires area lot like oil.........everybody has a different opinion of what's best

Me , I like round ones with tread still left on them the best  :ImaPoser
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: Advwannabe on July 31, 2013, 02:55:10 AM
Well said Mustang! Such a subjective topic.

For mainly paved stuff I like the feel of the Tourances.

For my current mix of paved and unpaved stuff I like the K60 Heidis. The mileage is not great but they are a good all round tire. 
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: HeavyHustler on July 31, 2013, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Advwannabe on July 31, 2013, 02:55:10 AM
For my current mix of paved and unpaved stuff I like the K60 Heidis. The mileage is not great but they are a good all round tire.

Interesting!  What was the mileage on a rear for you?
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: DavidR8 on September 18, 2013, 12:50:48 AM
Quote from: recroy on April 25, 2013, 02:39:01 AM
I have conti twinduro's on right now. I live on Vancouver Island and there's too many logging roads to explore without some tread under you! The rear is going to need replacing in the next month or so and I've decided on a kenda big block. Any comments would be appreciated. I like the conti's but the kenda is 1/2 the price and I've had good luck with them on my transalp.

Recroy, what did you end up buying?

And where are you on the Island? I'm in Victoria.
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: Advwannabe on October 09, 2013, 07:45:15 AM
Quote from: HeavyHustler on July 31, 2013, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Advwannabe on July 31, 2013, 02:55:10 AM
For my current mix of paved and unpaved stuff I like the K60 Heidis. The mileage is not great but they are a good all round tire.

Interesting!  What was the mileage on a rear for you?

About 6-8000ks HH. That seems pretty poor I know but the bike was either heavily laden 120k+ touring, two up or smashing along the rocks on fast unpaved roads for much of that.
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: Spud on October 09, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
Anakee 3's just fitted to my 955i. Stunning tyre

cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Favorite tyres?
Post by: HockleyBoy on October 21, 2013, 01:43:51 PM
Put some Anakee 3s on last Thursday as the shop were out of 2s, done about 400 miles since then and already love them. They really stick well wet or dry on the road, havent tried them off road.

Only thing for me will be how quickly they square off and how long they last overall. Just got 14k miles out of my last anakee 2 rear and 20+k out of the pilot road on the front!
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: nickjtc on January 18, 2014, 01:24:11 AM
Just ordered a set of Tourance NEXTs. I was looking for a more road-oriented replacement for the existing older Tourances on Stanley.

I will be attempting the tubed to tubeless conversion procedure when I get them.

17 February: The tyres were nice to work with and the tubeless conversion went very well. Now I have to wait until Spring to try them out.
Title: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: Nick Calne on March 21, 2014, 10:10:18 AM
...but it is tyre time.  I'm thinking of something 100% road-oriented for the steamer this time, lots of grip.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: nickjtc on March 21, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
Just put a pair of Tourance NEXTs on Stanley. About as road oriented as you can get for an 'adventure touring' tyre. OEM on BMWs now, which is very telling. And they come in the exact sizes for a Steamer.
Title: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: Montydog on March 21, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Seconded.... A great road tyre, tons of grip and great in the wet, all I've used in the last 100,000 miles
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: Spud on March 22, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
Anakee's 3 a superb tyre

cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: Bixxer Bob on March 22, 2014, 11:48:29 AM
I love Pirelli scorpion trails but just had a look at the Tourance Next. Given that Metzler and Pirelli are the same, I would recon the Trails and the Nexts are quite similar (although the next is a newer tyre) so my next set will be between those two based on price.
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: Nick Calne on March 22, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
Thank guys, much obliged for the advice. Think tourance nexts are going on.
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: threepot on March 22, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
I can't fault Tourances,but as Spud say's, the Anakee 3's are supposed to be excellent.
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: HockleyBoy on March 24, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: Spud on March 22, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
Anakee's 3 a superb tyre

cheers Spud  :thumbsup

+1 and they seem to last forever!
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: blacktiger on March 27, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
Dunlop Roadsmart 2.
Having got good reviews in the press I decided to try a set of these Dunlops as I wanted to go to a pure road tyre having got an 800XC for dirty stuff.
At first they didn't inspire confidence because I had lost the nice neutral steering that I'd had with every other tyre I'd had on this bike. They were over steering by trying to fall into the corners too much. The cure was to push on the inside bar to get the bike to hold a line. It was only when fully warmed up that they steered anywhere near right.
After a while of putting up with this behaviour I tried putting an extra 2psi into the front (up to 38psi) and it has cured the steering problem. I've now gaining much more confidence in them right from a cold start and they seem to grip very well in all conditions right down to freezing temperatures.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: nickjtc on March 27, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
Have now got over 200km under the Tourance NEXTS so they are well scrubbed in. Only on dry pavement so far, mind you.  My only comment would be to reiterate what Mike Hailwood said when he was asked to comment on the tyres on his Grand Prix winning bikes: "They are black and they are round!"

A totally neutral feel; the bike goes around corners nicely. Probably more a testament to the bike than the tyres??
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: mat-tiger1 on April 06, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
Quote from: Spud on March 22, 2014, 10:07:54 AM
Anakee's 3 a superb tyre

cheers Spud  :thumbsup

+1  :thumbsup I got Anakee 2's on mine & I can't fault them!
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: chairhead on April 07, 2014, 04:52:04 PM
Road based sticky tyre=Conti trail attack, I've found these superb and stick like the proverbial to a blanket, and great mileage too  :nod
Title: Re: OK, I know it is an emotive subject...
Post by: nickjtc on April 07, 2014, 07:28:57 PM
600km under the NEXTs already. Very nice.
Title: Tire recommendations?
Post by: cjunior955i on June 09, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
Hello,   

Just picked up a 06' that will need some new sneakers soon.  I believe the original tires are on the bike (Michellins I think, as it only has 6000 miles)  Looking for a 90% road, 10% dirt tire.  I was looking at the Pirelli Scorpion Trail - does anyone have these?  Any other recommendations would be appreciated.  Thanks! 
Title: Re: Tire recommendations?
Post by: Mustang on June 09, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
 :augie tire threads are a lot like oil threads
some take it personal .................... :bug_eye

everyone has an opinion about whats best  :nod

but look here for starters

http://www.tigertriple.com/forum/index.php/topic,4126.0.html
Title: Re: Tire recommendations?
Post by: Bixxer Bob on June 09, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
Fully behind what Mustang said,  but just to add, I've had 2 sets of Scorpion Trails before being forced back onto Tourances because I couldn't get STs last time but have just managed to get a set in time for France.  They are brilliant wet or dry, never so much as a twitch, BUT - they are really sharp-steering and it took me a couple of days to get used to them.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Tire recommendations?
Post by: benebob on June 21, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
My 99 came with Anakee's and I found them to be the worst tire I've ever ridden on.  Rear slipped and slide around on heavy acceleration.  Replaced with Bridgestone Battleaxe and loved them for 2500 miles.  Now on my 06 I'm back to Anakee's and haven't had an issue yet, go figure. 
Title: Re: Tire recommendations?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on June 21, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Quote from: benebob on June 21, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
My 99 came with Anakee's and I found them to be the worst tire I've ever ridden on.  Rear slipped and slide around on heavy acceleration.  Replaced with Bridgestone Battleaxe and loved them for 2500 miles.  Now on my 06 I'm back to Anakee's and haven't had an issue yet, go figure.

I experienced similar with Metzlers, and I'd had previous experience with them. Turned out after I'd spoken to the PO that they'd been on the bike during the whole of his ownership of 4 years, sitting in the sun and not getting a lot of riding other than short in town commutes, although they showed no signs of cracking but the finger nail test showed how uncompliant they had become. Sure enough when I checked the dates  :bug_eye they were off in a flash. Difficult thing to be objective about, more so when you get factors like that.
Title: Re: Tire recommendations?
Post by: rocco on June 21, 2014, 02:19:07 PM
Fitted a set of Michelin Anakee 3's prior to a blast down to Mugello in Italy for the moto gp.......
Awesome tyres that performed going accross the Alps superbly!!!!
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: nickjtc on June 26, 2014, 09:19:32 PM
Tourance NEXT mounted on a Steamer with 7,000+km of use, on not very twisty roads.

Can you spell square?  :icon_wink:

PS. With the wheel off the bike it stands up by itself, the tyre is so square!!
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: blacktiger on June 26, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
Forget all these dual purpose tyres like Anakee and Tourance. Waste of time when there are decent road tyres about. I'd be looking at the Avon Storm 3D-XM now that they make Tiger sizes. http://avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/storm-3d-x-m
I had the original Azzaro/Storm combo and they were absolutely fan-bloody-tastic.
Title: tyres again
Post by: nojohn on July 09, 2014, 12:12:57 AM
anakee 2 or Michelin pilot roads any views on these tyres need to replace my worn out anakee 2
Title: Re: tyres again
Post by: bigdan74 on July 09, 2014, 12:52:14 AM
i'm not sure that the anakee 2 is still available, pretty sure it's been discontinued here stateside.  i have one on the front of my klr and like it...  had a distanzia on the front of my tiger and liked it fine on the highway but it was scary on gravel.   gravel is a necessary part of my ride to get to the pavement everyday so i spooned a tkc 80 on the front. so far i like it, great on the gravel and very good on the highway... not sure what direction i will go with the rear tire...
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Spud on July 15, 2014, 04:50:26 PM
Anakee 3's are a great tyre superb grip in the wet or dry

cheers Spud  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: vince on July 15, 2014, 07:23:12 PM
Anakee 3's are a great tyre superb grip in the wet or dry

cheers Spud  :thumbsup

+1 on that   :thumbsup
had them on my 955i  :icon_lol:
and now on the 800 :icon_biggrin:
transformed the bike :wheel
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: HockleyBoy on July 16, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
+1 on the Anakee IIIs, just about to put a new pair on my 955. Not only do they have brilliant grip wet or dry they are very very hard wearing.

Longest lasting tyres I have tried by literaly thousands of miles.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Graham on September 06, 2015, 09:04:44 AM
I am off to Spain in a few weeks and need some new tires.
I have been using Anakee 2 for the last few years and have been very pleased with them.  I was going for the new Anakee 3 but my dealer persuaded me to try the new Avon Trailriders. They are designed for 90% road use and are supposed to be the dogs .....
Initial test reports by the bike magazines seem very good.
After my trip to Spain in October I will let you know.  I am hoping to be able to only report dry conditions :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: MattDaleEvans on February 19, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
Hi All, I've a 2007 Tiger which came with the heavy duty Michelin Anakees on it from brand new which looked really cool!  At first they were OK but then they just went a bit too square and hard for my mainly road use (98% tarmac - 2% other for me) and I just couldn't handle wet corners very well in decent confidence!  When that first set wore out I then used Bridestone BT020's (which were great for the road - dual hard/soft compound) but they have been fazed out and I've now been using Bridgestone BT023's front & rear for the last 4 to 5 years (these are also a really 'good' road orientated tyre again - dual compound). I get roughly 10000 miles on the front (£85) and 5000 miles on the rear (£95) before they get dangerously worn out.  The center tread wear is the main issue now - the rears just go bald in the middle and it turns the Tiger into a bit of a Bambi on ice when its very wet!  I've sawn the tyre in two and there's a good 5-6mm thick rubber band beyond the wear bars......... Just need to keep leaning I suppose............ ;0)  I use mytyres.co.uk for supplies in the UK obviously - great service.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: MattDaleEvans on February 19, 2016, 05:36:34 PM
Bridgestone BT 023 pair
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: cavi on May 02, 2016, 03:48:54 AM
seams most of the tires discussed here are geared twords road use.  I am one who uses the bike on fire roads and gravel roads.  My 99 came to me with new metzler torance tires, but I would really like something that would do a bit better off road but not die on the pavement.  I am looking into a couple tires, the scout, the anaklee wild and conti tkc.
Opinions!!!
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Mustang on May 02, 2016, 01:31:19 PM
tires like the tkc's are only going to last a few thousand mles.....................

look at shinko 805's
unless your idea of offroad is single track (where a tiger has no buisness being way) the beast does just fine on an 80/20 tire
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: cavi on May 02, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
how do my tourances compare to the shinko 705?  They look very similar but my tourances look to have a bit more space between blocks but not has tall blocks...  I will for sure run out my current tourances, but after that who knows.....
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Mustang on May 02, 2016, 09:47:40 PM
THEY DON'T LIKE MUD .
the 805 shinko is more aggressive than the 705

these are 805's

(https://motorsportsnewswire.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/140924-wps-shinko-804-front-805-rear-21.jpg)
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: cavi on May 02, 2016, 11:47:58 PM
Yes I saw those tires, and I would propbably not go that route, I ma not a big fan of the rear design, seems like the center blocks could have been moved around a bit and offset so you didn't have just complete strips of blocks.  I  am also looking twords the met.  Karoo3 and the mitas MC60  ?  Also in contention are the TKC70 and the mitas e-07 dakar.  Noth of those seem like they might be a better direction to go.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: blacktiger on May 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: cavi on May 02, 2016, 03:48:54 AM
seams most of the tires discussed here are geared twords road use.  I am one who uses the bike on fire roads and gravel roads.  My 99 came to me with new metzler torance tires, but I would really like something that would do a bit better off road but not die on the pavement.  I am looking into a couple tires, the scout, the anaklee wild and conti tkc.
Opinions!!!

You need the Mitas E07. Great tyre and last forever because the 150/70x17 is dual compound.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: cavi on May 03, 2016, 08:13:08 PM
after reading for hours on the subject, I am deffinitly leaning twords the mitas e07 in the dakkar version.  seems like a good tire between the full knobbie and the tire I am running now.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: threepot on July 28, 2016, 09:24:13 AM
Anyone tried the Heidenhau Scout? Tempted to try them,or Mitas?
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Gnomad on August 24, 2017, 07:17:24 PM
I tried a set of Shinko 705's and had nothing but unhappiness with them. They made the bike oversteer and feel skittish, worked poorly in  the wet, and overall raised the height of the bike to the tippy toe level. replaced with battlewings and now it's a happier bike.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 26, 2017, 08:12:13 AM
We use Heidenhaus on our classic  race bike.  They are super sticky and grip well but not great in the wet.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: CaptureTheBeer on May 06, 2018, 03:07:20 AM
G'day all

Just fitted the Motoz Tractinator GPS to the Girly after reading some decent reviews around the place.

It's a 50/50 tyre which is about as long lived as a Heidenau K60, but apparently better in the wet.  I don't expect them to handle as well as the anakees, but that's what you get with a compromise tyre.

They're an Aussie owned and designed Thai made tyre.  The company has been making dirt bike tyres for years and has been making road tyres for about the past 5-6years.

I've only done a about 70km after coming off a very well worn set of Anakees, so I can't comment on the handling yet as they're still in break in phase.  All up they cost me about $440 AUD for the pair including new inner tubes (delivered).  The front required no balancing weights but the rear ended up needing 55gr.

Anyway I'll keep you posted as I wear them in and winter approaches Western Australia.

Pictures below.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: blacktiger on May 07, 2018, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: threepot on July 28, 2016, 09:24:13 AM
Anyone tried the Heidenhau Scout? Tempted to try them,or Mitas?

Mark, trust me the E07 is a much better tyre for the rear. I get 12000 miles out of them on my 800 and, as you know, I don't hang around.
Having said that, the size for your steamer is different and might not be the dual compound that my 150/70x17 is.

I use a Mefo Explorer on the front of the 800XC and they're amazingly grippy for what they are. And cheap too at £48 from Zenoverland. In fact the Mefo front and the E07 rear cost about the same as ONE Heidi rear and the pair last twice as long.
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: threepot on May 07, 2018, 07:04:28 PM
Thanks for the reply Howard(£%&#@+! 2 years later)😂😂
Title: Re: Tigger Tyre Guide
Post by: blacktiger on May 08, 2018, 07:07:59 AM
Quote from: threepot on May 07, 2018, 07:04:28 PM
Thanks for the reply Howard(£%&#@+! 2 years later)😂😂

Ooooops! Still relevant though.
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