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Title: LED running lights
Post by: pxm on August 24, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
I've bought a pair of 3w LED running lights & have made a pair of brackets so they fit on the base of the mirrors.
I'll post pictures when I've done as they look very neat & only cost £4 a pair on eBay.

I've taken the fairing off to wire them in behind the instrument panel, but I'm not sure where to pick up a switched live & earth.
As the current is extremely low (6w), I'm assuming I can tap in somewhere without any problems.

Can anyone please suggest how to get them lit?
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 24, 2015, 11:30:59 PM
My wiring diagram is down in the garage so can't advise on colours, but you need to trace the ign lock cable to the plug / socket behind the clocks and taap a switched live there.  Don't forget an in-line fuse to protect against shorts.
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: pxm on August 25, 2015, 12:13:18 AM
My auto electrician mate suggested tapping into the sidelight.  Reckons there should be live & earth wires so should be straightforward to do. 
An extra 1/2 amp (6w at 12v) shouldn't affect the rating of the fuse in that circuit.  I can't recall there being a fuse for sidelights alone so probably in the 15 amp headlight circuit.
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: pxm on August 25, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on August 24, 2015, 11:30:59 PM
My wiring diagram is down in the garage so can't advise on colours, but you need to trace the ign lock cable to the plug / socket behind the clocks and taap a switched live there.  Don't forget an in-line fuse to protect against shorts.
If the sidelight option doesn't work Bob, could you please give me the colours for switched live & earth when you get time?
Finding a switched live is straightforward, but an earth is more difficult.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 25, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
I didn't mention the sidelight option because I thought you might want to switch them idependently.  Sidelight is good though and no, they have a separate fuse.

Your options at the plug are:

Brown connecting to Blue / yellow  - Headlight cutoff relay and instruments.  Picking this one will switch them off when you crank the starter along with the lights which is normal.

Yellow connecting to green - stop light supply.  This is ok as it's before the stop light switch so is live when ign on..

Green / white connecting to orange / green - Horn and indicator relay.  Again this is ok  to use.

The one to avoid as it's the power to the switch and so is always live is the white connecting to brown (probably quite thick too).  All colours are switch side first loom side second.
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: pxm on August 28, 2015, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: Bixxer Bob on August 25, 2015, 02:58:17 PM
I didn't mention the sidelight option because I thought you might want to switch them idependently.  Sidelight is good though and no, they have a separate fuse.

Your options at the plug are:

Brown connecting to Blue / yellow  - Headlight cutoff relay and instruments.  Picking this one will switch them off when you crank the starter along with the lights which is normal.

Yellow connecting to green - stop light supply.  This is ok as it's before the stop light switch so is live when ign on..

Green / white connecting to orange / green - Horn and indicator relay.  Again this is ok  to use.

The one to avoid as it's the power to the switch and so is always live is the white connecting to brown (probably quite thick too).  All colours are switch side first loom side second.

Thanks again for your help Bob. But where do I find a decent earth around there? These are all feeds aren't they?
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: Bixxer Bob on August 30, 2015, 11:01:27 AM
I put a loop terminal on the end of my ground lead, loosened one of the fairing chassis screws, scraped off a little paint and attached it there.  If I remember rightly, it was left end as you look forward, might have been headlight assy screw.
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: pxm on September 24, 2015, 11:58:16 PM
I'm having problems in getting these lights to work.
I've wired them up & they work OK but as soon as I attach them to the metal brackets I made attached to the metal handlebars, I get smoke!
It seems the lights will only work on an insulated bracket, probably due to how they are wired internally.
There are 2 wires to connect on each light, but even if I only attach the +ve wire, they won't work.
Does anyone with electrical knowledge have any idea what is going wrong please?
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: Sin_Tiger on September 25, 2015, 12:01:42 AM
Got to be the +ve touching the casing internally. I recently had a similar issue with a supposed IP56 LED of China origin poorly put together.
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: Bixxer Bob on September 25, 2015, 01:37:07 PM
How many wires and what colour on the lights?
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: RumRunnerGuy on December 27, 2015, 04:22:15 AM
Quote from: pxm on August 24, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
I've bought a pair of 3w LED running lights & have made a pair of brackets so they fit on the base of the mirrors.
I'll post pictures when I've done as they look very neat & only cost £4 a pair on eBay.

I've taken the fairing off to wire them in behind the instrument panel, but I'm not sure where to pick up a switched live & earth.
As the current is extremely low (6w), I'm assuming I can tap in somewhere without any problems.

Can anyone please suggest how to get them lit?

Did you ever take any pictures of the bracket you made?
Title: Re: LED running lights
Post by: fattyjr on December 27, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
whenever I fit additional equipment to vehicles, I run relays and fuses.  even if it's low powered equipment.

as for earths, I always run new earth point in direct to the battery, that way you know you got a good earth
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