anyone seen any reports back on bikes after they'e had a bit of mileage put on them? any problems reported yet?
my 800 street tiger is back at the dealer, it stalls all the time as soon as I give it some gas, just blip the throttle and it stalls
I have read of others having the stalling problem. I have 817 miles on mine without issue, but I've had the Arrow can and map installed from day one.
I too have read about this stalling 'feature' - but like Boxmonkey, I have had the exhaust exchanged and the ECU remapped!
2'500 km on the clock now and not 1 stalling issue.
well I took an 800 'Roadie' out for a test ride today...
.. I found it very bland, dont seem to get the kick in the back like I do from the carb 885 Thunderbird Sport that I rode over there on.. yeah its faster( I guess) but just doesnt feel like it.. seemed a little jerky if you went off then on the throttle.. also was rough at some revs, had to play around changing gears to find one that it ran smoothly in when stickign to 30 and 40 mph limits..
but the big problem for me was the 'screen'.. couldnt lift my visor even when travelling at 30 mph, and get up to 60 and it just gave me a headache - felt like I had someone punching each shoulder alternately.. very odd.. and I purposly rode the same route that I ridden then on the naked bike so that I could compare..
found the suspension a little hard, but having said that it did seem to cope well with the collapsed fenland road that I found to try out! :D
also impressed with the turning circle and apparently lightness - feet up U turns in tightish spaces were straightforward..
brakes were 'OK' but still the same crappy sliding caliper nissins they've been using since the year dot.
I said I'll try the XC demo when its ready, but I've gone from 'where do i sign' to having a rethink of what I'm goign to buy next...
I have put around 300 miles on a roadie and I really enjoyed it.
It inspires confidence for wandering down single tracks and light off road - light and well balanced. I can't think of many situations where one person would not be able to pick the bike back up again - unlike my Steamer.
I am 6'3" and I had no problem with leg room. Strangely, I found the seat more comfortable on a lower seat setting.
I think the bike is too light for replacing the 1050's road touring capabilities. It is blown about quite easy and I am sure adding luggage would only increase this problem. I would love to see someone do a Ewan and Charlie trek on one of these to really test its merits.
A good commuter bike, a little bit sporty, but no grin factor when twisting the throttle.
One item that is going to be an issue. No detachable rear subframe or detachable pillion hangers.
yep I found it comfy enough, although the bars would want adjusting for me..again the XC might cure that as I believe the bars are different...
the buffeting is the major thing, didnt have any of that on my Steamer nor on the naked TBS... maybe I was expecting too much, thinking I was going to have an 'oh my god this is what i've been missing out on ' moment, when I just found it to be 'alright'..
No matter how tall / short you are the XC requires risers. 20mm size was sufficient to make significant improvement. Even at a diminuative 5'8" - stock bars were WAY too low. Tall windscreen was also an improvement over standard - but still alot to be desired here - marginal at best. Palmer has, (or will have) his brackets / screen ready soon. Huge improvement on my Girly - hope the same for XC.
Quote from: "jphish"No matter how tall / short you are the XC requires risers. 20mm size was sufficient to make significant improvement. Even at a diminuative 5'8" - stock bars were WAY too low. Tall windscreen was also an improvement over standard - but still alot to be desired here - marginal at best. Palmer has, (or will have) his brackets / screen ready soon. Huge improvement on my Girly - hope the same for XC.
+1 (and to Neil) I had forgotten that point. I don't know who they got to test ride these bikes, but yes, they are way too low and I would have thought someone would have raised this as an issue during testing.
Well, I've got 1300 miles on my XC now and I'm really happy with it. No stalling issues. No buffeting from the screen. No problem getting both feet flat on the ground. No numb bum from the stock seat. It's got plenty of go from tickover to red line. Smooth. Really smooth right round the rev counter.
The only niggles I have are :-
1) I suspect the bars are too straight for ultimate comfort. Although I have already done a 450 mile day without too much effort.
2) The hand guards are crap so I've fitted Tiger1050 ones.
3) The screen creates wind roar in the chin vent of my C3 helmet. I'm going to look at the Palmer brackets to fit their screen I have on my 955 already.
the buffeting seems to vary from person to person so must be a 'size and shape' thing :) I just wonder if you can run it without the screen? I think I will give the XC a go and see if thats any better/different, maybe adjust the seat height as I rode the 800 with it on the highest setting.. l
I have 1646 miles so far on my T800 Road ABS, and I am very happy with the bike. I don't have a ton of experience, but the Tiger works great for me. Smooth ride, good power,slick shifting, easily flicked around, and comfortable for me. I get more wind noise than buffeting from the screen, but still better than my last bike.I mainly commute, but take the occasional day trip once in a while. So far the only negatives seem to be less than stellar mileage (43-44mpg US), but I do have the Arrow exhaust and map. A little extra heat from the engine area, but I have since adjusted to it. In my opinion, it is way better than my Versys which is a very nice bike.
Hey Boxmonkey !! i think yer MPG will improve with more miles on the clock :D
for wind noise i use these.......
http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/max-lite (http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/max-lite)
they're very soft and i can wear them all day :thumbsup
KK
How funny! Those are the exact ear plugs I have started using. Part of the problem may be my HJC. Others I know say theirs HJC helmets are kind of noisy also. I think I am going to try an Icon Variant or Scorpion 750 next. The mileage has gone up since new. It started around 40-41mpg, after about 1200 is seemed to start improving.
most , if not all triumph engines like to get a couple thousand miles on them b4 they start to "loosen up" :wink:
Done about 2500 miles on my XC (okay, Triumph's XC then, but mine for this year...) and getting increasingly impressed. Seat comfort's not good though, especially on the back, so I'm trying the gel seat option.
Also, the computer's a bit odd, it says I'm getting 43.5mpg when I'm actually getting 47mpg, and when it's down to zero miles remaining I can only get 17 litres in. I can hear more fuel sloshing about and it's supposed to be a 19 litre tank, whihc means I should have another 20 miles or so to go. Anyone run one dry yet and seen what the tank will take?
Kevin
So they've been out a while and this is what Cheryl & Leslie (2011 CHERYL & LESLIE'S TRIUMPH TIGER 800 XC ADVENTURE to ALASKA) (http://advgrrls.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/would-we-buy-a-triumph-tiger-800xc/) have to say about them:
QuoteWould we buy a Triumph Tiger 800XC?
(If you happen to buy this bike because of our trip, maybe mention it to your dealer, thanks)
I need to preface this so called "review" by saying this is not expected of us to even talk about the bikes. Triumph never said you had to review the bikes as part of this "deal". As a matter of fact we have not heard a peep from Triumph or our dealer since on the road.
This bike is a WINNER for the average ADV rider like us!
We both feel like we owe the bikes some air time because for the most part we are completely impressed. The thing is we do not want to jinx the bikes so we are going to talk in general terms hoping that our bikes keep going strong. We still have many weeks to go.
So, the 1st thing we both need to draw attention to and these "complaints" are not deal breakers.
The odometer. Triumph in our opinion needs to just copy BMW, add an info button on the clutch side of the handle bars and just make it easier for the rider to switch the ABS off, see your trip info, etc. You can not see the mileage on the bike unless you start the bike and it flashes for about 3 seconds or you are in neutral and toggle through the two buttons they have to try and find it. In basic terms, Triumph just make it easier for us to see the info we want without reaching while riding. Yes I do that at times and yes I know I am not supposed to. Add a ambient temperature gauge. I love seeing the temperature especially when you are riding through ranges of 30 C and then it goes down to 8. Copy the BMW button and make it yours. Simple. Don't worry about the cost either. I doubt it would kill the wallet.
To compare or not to compare to BMW? Here is the scoop, we are DS riders but mainly commute to work. It is only once a year we get a chance to go away and really go exploring like this trip. So, in a bike as we look for road comfort and stability as well as off road handling. We do not beat on our bikes, we do not look for the roughest terrain to ride on. We are what we are, adventure riders who love getting off the highways into the back country. We ride mainly forestry roads with some sort of ATV like tracks. Never single tracks. We both think the Tiger may have created a new niche for the 800 cc bikes.
I am calling the TIGER a fantastic street touring machine that is competent off road too!
Our BMW 650GS twin is a great bike and so is the 800GS. The Tiger suits us better because of the road handling and comfort.
The seat – The Tiger is wider than both the 650 and 800GS. More like the 1200GS. We are riding with the gel seats and have NOT on issue with them. Totally comfortable as comfort goes on a DS bike. The BMW has a plank set much narrower and when riding off road easier to control the bike when standing than the Tiger. However, the Tiger handles great off road just in a heavier way. Once you get used to the wider seat it is a very responsive bike.
The engine – The triple is smooth smooth smooth. The bike loves to be around 6000 RPMS. The power in the upper gears is crazy good. Passing in 5th not an issue at all and the bike never seems to break a sweat. Our bikes have 72 HP the Tiger has 92. You can really feel the difference riding in mountains, on dirt, mud, clay, anything and on the highway. We both love the extra power.
Ergonomics – I added 20 mm handlebar risers, could use a bit more height and the riding position for both is us is almost perfect. Nice width, thickness to the bars and our backs do not completely get sore after 600 KM. The pegs initially felt really high but again one gets used to the location being a bit higher than our 650. Becomes comfortable yet again after riding for 1000's of KM. This is a BIG one for us and for anyone wanting to buy a bike like this. Also, BMW will have to introduce the adjustable seat heights for the 650 and 800 bikes if they want more men and women on their bikes.
The seats can be adjusted to 2 heights and also the rider can make the seat higher in the back or front. So, 4 adjustments plus you can get a low seat too. This makes this bike more appealing for the vertically challenged without lowering the suspension. A BIG plus in our books. I have the low gel seat and Cheryl with the regular height gel seat. We are both set on the low setting. This makes this bike more versatile then the BMW as it stands right now.
Suspension – WOW. We have the pre load set stiff for the luggage and weight. This bike has gone through craters on the roads, bumps, you name it and I have not felt the bike bottom out yet. Cheryl has with her front forks a few times but over all great suspension for how we ride the bikes.
Side kick stand – We both feel it sits the bike too tall, may need to be tad bit shorter. Just our opinion and adding an extra wider foot print has been a great addition to our bikes.
The Look – we love the look of both bikes but the Tiger has grown on both of us and we think it is a great looking machine.
Brakes – No issues, they work and right now after all the crap we have been riding in the pads look brand new and the rotors look great too. So, this bike can handle being ridden in some wicked off road materials that are used on the roads in the Yukon and Alaska. So, wear and tear the Tiger is doing well. No doubt the Beemers would be it the same shape by now.
Gas Mileage – Getting better now that we have over 5000 KM on the bikes. We are getting over 350 KM per tank with the pressure up in our tires and trying to keep the bike in and around 5500 RPMs.
Triumph Accessories on our bikes –
Adjustable Touring Screen – A winner and works. Looks great and once you get your set up right the shield does it job. We would keep the adjustable shield made by Triumph.
Fog lights – Not HID but they are bright and again look good. We would keep the fog lights as they do their job for visibility. have not tested them at night.
Sump guard or skid plate – Seems adequate but lacks oil filter coverage. we still would keep it.
Engine guards – have not tested them but look substantial. No accessory that Triumph makes right now to protect the fairing. We would find something for up top.
Radiator Cover – triumph makes one but for some reason did not make it on our bike. We would get one.
Seats – we all ready spoke of them, we would keep the gel seats (They cost extra money)
Our Tires – Heidenau K60 Scouts. Would never put another tire on this bike unless all we were doing was hard core off road riding. the Scout is proving to be a hardy functional tire on this trip. A+ for Heidenau.
**Can't think of anything else right now. Feel free to ask questions. Would we buy this bike over another Beemer. The answer is yes. If BMW makes a bike that would really make it easy to compare to the Tiger I would be interested. Again the way we feel this is a bike in it's own league in a way because of how great it handles on the road and off.
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I'm having a nice time reading their blogg...
*BIG thumbs-up* to you two!
Quote from: "Kev Ash"Done about 2500 miles on my XC (okay, Triumph's XC then, but mine for this year...) and getting increasingly impressed. Seat comfort's not good though, especially on the back, so I'm trying the gel seat option.
Also, the computer's a bit odd, it says I'm getting 43.5mpg when I'm actually getting 47mpg, and when it's down to zero miles remaining I can only get 17 litres in. I can hear more fuel sloshing about and it's supposed to be a 19 litre tank, whihc means I should have another 20 miles or so to go. Anyone run one dry yet and seen what the tank will take?
Kevin
Mine also reads about 3mpg under. It may be deliberate by Triumph so that you don't run out but it does instil a bit of apprehension into the ride.
Also, I doubt the full 19 litres would be usable. You, Kev, would have more experience over lots of different bikes but I've always understood that with the efi bikes with a pump, the pick up is never right at the bottom, lowest point in the tank so that last 1/2 litre or so cannot be used.
The closest I've got to empty was showing 15 miles to go and it took 16.62 litres. So I reckon it would have gone another 25 miles to pushing.
Cheryl & Leslie are havin the stallin issue with there bikes :shock:
was fixed in Anchorage but its back :(
hope the grrls get it fixed soon and finnish there trip !!
Awesome !!
10.000Km so far :shock:
KK
Hi I am one of grrls who took out the Triumph Tigers to Alaska. My name is Leslie.
We are back and here is our final review of the bikes
http://advgrrls.com/final-triumph-tiger-review-plus-gear/
you guys might like my past post on our advgrrls BLOG....click on the pic you like and see the really large hi resolution version....
http://advgrrls.com/2011/08/15/just-tigers-mega-picture-update/
Quote from: "soph9"you guys might like my past post on our advgrrls BLOG....click on the pic you like and see the really large hi resolution version....
http://advgrrls.com/2011/08/15/just-tigers-mega-picture-update/
I would like to thank you 2 grrls for postin up the grrrreat day by day adventure you both had !! i lurked on ADVrider most days to catch up on what was happenin and where you were :wink:
Awesome pics and a RR that should be made into a book :wink:
hope yer not to down about being home and back to reality, yer memory's of the trip should be with you till yer next venture :thumbsup
:bowdown
KK
down a little but comments like yours pick us right back up...we posted a video after we got home with our Beemers...on the ADV site and blog of course :wink:
Hey grrls !! I checked out yer video :thumbsup but don't look so sad beside yer beemers !! :(
as lease you've still got workin bikes that are your's !! :wink:
have fun !!
KK
Quote from: "KuzzinKenny"Hey grrls !! I checked out yer video :thumbsup but don't look so sad beside yer beemers !! :(
as lease you've still got workin bikes that are your's !! :wink:
have fun !!
KK
Beemers all cleaned up and we are not sad.... :wink:
Owner's should contact their Triumph dealer in reference to Service Bulletin 431 and make an appointment to have the new download installed ASAP.
Straight from Triumph which was released today to the Global dealer Network.
We know nothing else but thought it would be useful to pass this info along.
Good luck to all of your who have been experiencing what we did on our trip. Hope this new download works!
http://advgrrls.com
12'000 miles and not a problem.
4000 miles since June 2nd, and no problems on my roadie.
I may've been a little hasty, possibly even wrong :oops:
had an 800 'roadie' today as a loan bike and have done about 130 miles (rude not too)... now if this had been the bike that i demo'd a few months back I reckon i'd have bought one.. it was set up and runnign properly, it has the tall screen and adjuster fitted, and it has a lower seat on it (or possibly just adjusted, I'll ask tomorrow).. anyway, the buffeting has just about gone, the noise is similar, possibly slightly less than my 'Girly,' which ment I could concentrate on riding and enjoying the bike rather than just hanging on.. I dont want to give it back.. :(
http://advgrrls.com/2011/10/24/triumph-tiger-explorer-more-pics/