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Tiger Time => Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) => Electrickery => Topic started by: Wilky on December 24, 2017, 06:26:27 AM

Title: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 24, 2017, 06:26:27 AM
03 Girly, have ignition, hit starter button and nothing, no lights cut out or go dim.
Now I know the switch is ok, tested with meter
Clutch switch bypassed, but tested with meter and is ok.
Pulled out starter solenoid, bridged actuater contacts and solenoid activates.
Have swapped light cut out relay.
Have no ecm fault light, have not checked fault codes.
Have checked all fuses.
Am totally stuffed  for thoughts now

Any ideas anyone

Cheers Wilky
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: CaptureTheBeer on December 24, 2017, 07:15:23 AM
Is your side stand switch working or bypassed, are you in neutral?

Cheers Dan
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Timbox2 on December 24, 2017, 11:47:35 AM
As Dan says, and also check Main fuse/Holder on side of battery( If you havent). Think the ECM relay can also cause no start
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 25, 2017, 10:41:43 AM
Have checked every possible thing I can check, will get some new relays tomorrow because I'm thinking problem is tied into a relay.
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 27, 2017, 05:22:54 AM
Folks, is it possible the no starty problem could be in the ecu?
I have replaced replays, checked fuses, checked switches, have done continuity checks through every possible point, all to no avail.

If I can't work it out I am thinking rewiring the the starter button and bypassing every thing else, would this be a feasible thing?

Any ideas folks?
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 27, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
The story so far,
I have replaced all the critical relays and tested the rest, I have checked continuity through the whole starting system, so in frustration I have bypassed the complete system and hooked the starter button straight through the battery and solenoid, fused of course.
Interestingly the motor starts instantly now where as before it would wind over numerous times , start, cough and splutter, stall and on the next attempt it would start ok. Still not as good as it does now though.

If any one has some thoughts on it I would love to hear them.
Cheers
Wilky
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Sin_Tiger on December 27, 2017, 06:29:11 PM
Changing the relays is good but don't forget the base / holders with the actual connectors and wires which can get in a bit of a state too and are worthy of close scrutiny.
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: London_Phil on December 27, 2017, 07:05:26 PM
Am I right in thinking the Girly FI is very sensitive to voltage at ECU?
Have you tried jumping the battery during starting?
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Timbox2 on December 27, 2017, 08:32:48 PM
Has the bike got an alarm? 
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 28, 2017, 09:26:13 AM
Sin_Tiger, good point re relay bases, something I will look at.

London_Phil, yes they are temperamental with voltage.

Timbox2 no alarm on the Tiger.

Out for a test ride today and everything is working good.

If I ever get to the bottom of the fault I will post what it was.
cheers
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: John Stenhouse on December 29, 2017, 11:14:07 PM
Only thing I've ever come across is the starter switch which occasionally gives me kittens by not activating when I push the button. takes two or three presses to make a contact and go. It too checks out on a meter.
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: JayDub on December 30, 2017, 11:15:14 PM
I've had the same on a couple of past bikes, a squirt of switch & contract cleaner sorts it out.
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Timbox2 on December 31, 2017, 09:15:33 AM
Think you need to do voltage drop tests on pos and neg circuits, though based on what you have done it would seem to be the pos circuit at fault
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: Wilky on December 31, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
well folks, I have now put the light cut out relay back into my bypassed starting system and it works as it should so I'm leaving it as it is. Thanks for all the thoughts folks.
Cheers Wilky. oh and happy new year to all.
Title: Re: no starty help please
Post by: PeteH on January 02, 2018, 03:24:49 PM
By pssing the clutch switch only does the switch, my problem was with the connector further down, only found by belling out the cables to the rats nest behind the headlamp cowl, at least you got it going :nod
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