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#41
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: Believe it or not... start...
Last post by London_Phil - April 15, 2024, 05:57:25 PMRealistically with these sort of issues, its probably best to try to link out individual items rather than loading the parts canon. Are you saying that if the solenoid is given 12v, the starter fires, ie its the control side, such as dirty contacts etc, or does it need the load side of the relay shorted to work properly. Your description suggests the starter switch neds looking at for corrosion or bad connections. I've seen issues with the engine kill switch causing starting issues, but this can also cause sudden engine stop, so maybe start with the switch?
#42
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Believe it or not... starting ...
Last post by jcbrnld - April 15, 2024, 05:29:38 PMHello all,
In general my '99 girly is dead reliable and quite a dream machine.
There is just one little issue that I have not been able to figure out.
It started slow. Occasionally I would have to push the starter button a few times to get the engine to turn over. Then some days it would turn over with the switch and others it would not. For the sake of simplicity I added a separate momentary switch providing 12 pure volts directly to the starter solenoid. This bypasses everything and allows the engine to turn over every time as long as the clutch is pulled.
Now that momentary switch is having internal issues so I am motivated to try to fix the OEM system too.
Here's the issue:
Everything seems perfect, except no power makes it to the solenoid.
All lights come on, fuel pump primes, headlight cutout relay clicks and dash lights dim slightly when starter button is pushed. Just no power at solenoid.
When I provide power to the solenoid separately it starts and runs perfectly... carried me through an iron butt ride no problemo.
It seems like an issue in either the headlight cutout relay or the starter switch itself. Both give signs of life so idk which to pursue first.
I did test the cutout relay back when all this started and all seemed good there... maybe it's worth a replacement anyway.
Any insight or helpful advice would be much appreciated.
In general my '99 girly is dead reliable and quite a dream machine.
There is just one little issue that I have not been able to figure out.
It started slow. Occasionally I would have to push the starter button a few times to get the engine to turn over. Then some days it would turn over with the switch and others it would not. For the sake of simplicity I added a separate momentary switch providing 12 pure volts directly to the starter solenoid. This bypasses everything and allows the engine to turn over every time as long as the clutch is pulled.
Now that momentary switch is having internal issues so I am motivated to try to fix the OEM system too.
Here's the issue:
Everything seems perfect, except no power makes it to the solenoid.
All lights come on, fuel pump primes, headlight cutout relay clicks and dash lights dim slightly when starter button is pushed. Just no power at solenoid.
When I provide power to the solenoid separately it starts and runs perfectly... carried me through an iron butt ride no problemo.
It seems like an issue in either the headlight cutout relay or the starter switch itself. Both give signs of life so idk which to pursue first.
I did test the cutout relay back when all this started and all seemed good there... maybe it's worth a replacement anyway.
Any insight or helpful advice would be much appreciated.
#43
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: 955i side stand a direct f...
Last post by gcloys - April 15, 2024, 04:21:49 PMQuote from: London_Phil on April 15, 2024, 04:07:50 PMThe only thing I would add is the pad area is tiny. I once arrived at a Rally in a wet field, and had to wait on my Steamer until someone came to see if I was OK, as the stand disappeared straight into the grass. I made myself a foot for my stand after that, which also helped with the angle..
My stand (original) was modified by the previous owner with an extension and larger foot. I did need to put a bushing in the hole to fix the wobble. For some of my other bikes I carry a pad to throw under. #44
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: 955i side stand a direct f...
Last post by London_Phil - April 15, 2024, 04:12:31 PMBest I could find, showing support bar and foot..You cannot see attachments on this board.
#45
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: 955i side stand a direct f...
Last post by London_Phil - April 15, 2024, 04:07:50 PMThe only thing I would add is the pad area is tiny. I once arrived at a Rally in a wet field, and had to wait on my Steamer until someone came to see if I was OK, as the stand disappeared straight into the grass. I made myself a foot for my stand after that, which also helped with the angle..
#46
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: 955i side stand a direct f...
Last post by gcloys - April 15, 2024, 03:53:32 PMFrom the Steamer Facebook page its said to be a straight swap. https://www.facebook.com/groups/824051841083961/search/?q=955%20side%20stand
#47
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by gcloys - April 15, 2024, 03:44:36 PMQuote from: Titus on April 14, 2024, 02:43:03 PMWe will get to the bottom of it, I bet the melted alternator wires had a big role here, maybe even cooked the cdi, will keep you guys posted, next week I have the alt back and the pickup.Manual is on the Steamers Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/824051841083961/files/files. You may find more info over there. There are some instances of Alternator connectors melting from high resistance.
Thank you everyone!!!
#48
Girly Talk (1999 - 2006 Tigers) / Re: 24k Service done
Last post by HockleyBoy - April 15, 2024, 02:44:57 PMDealer services are no joke, £1.2k for a 24k service on a 1050 sport!
#49
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by Titus - April 14, 2024, 02:43:03 PMWe will get to the bottom of it, I bet the melted alternator wires had a big role here, maybe even cooked the cdi, will keep you guys posted, next week I have the alt back and the pickup.
Thank you everyone!!!
Thank you everyone!!!
#50
Steamers (1993-1998 Tigers) / Re: Steamer with bad habbits
Last post by Beernard - April 14, 2024, 11:30:39 AMSorry Titus, I can't add to the discussion from here. All the best.
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