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Title: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 03, 2015, 06:17:36 PM
Ok, When the rear of the bike is raised or lowered (by pushing hard down) something is making the spring go boing for want of a better description, it passed its MOT last Saturday and the examiner couldn't find a fault, any ideas ?? Im leaning towards the bottom shock mount as the bike suffered the worst of winter with not much in the way of care  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on June 03, 2015, 06:28:48 PM
Sounds like it's catching or sticking, then releasing creating the Boing. I would try giving it a good dousing in ACF or WD40 at least to see what happens.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: nickjtc on June 03, 2015, 06:50:10 PM
:iagree A spritz here and there with your freer-upper or lubricant du jour around the moving bits may help.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Mustang on June 03, 2015, 07:30:16 PM
 :tigger
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: nickjtc on June 03, 2015, 07:53:16 PM
Also.... everything greased recently???
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 03, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
Also.... everything greased recently???
Err, no..... :icon_redface: juggling too many other things and taken my eye off the ball, still sorting the front brakes ie- new discs....pads and now had to strip the calipers to fit new seals and take the master cylinder into work to remove a fecked up cover screw.
Edit to add....Also had to put a new battery on her even though the optimate was used through the winter  :^_^
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: nickjtc on June 04, 2015, 04:33:38 AM
If it has breasts or wheels, it is going to cost you money!  :icon_wink: :icon_lol: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 07, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Its the bottom shock mount, rear end stripped down and top bolt removed from shock and it won't budge. Tried drifting the bush out but its feckin solid  :icon_cry:
Need to make a puller now and if that fails, rebuild hope for the best and get Wales out of the way.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 09, 2015, 08:09:18 PM
Very expensive lesson learned today.....keep on top of your maintenance.
Had the swing arm with attached shock on the brake press in work as Tiger -G`s puller and FBH couldn't cut it. Had 150b on the fecker and it wouldn't shift. so we left it to stew under pressure while we had a brew.
During the brew the bottom shock mount split so a new shock is now needed, with the shock removed we could access the inner bearing sleeve to find it just about welded to the sleeve - only option was to grind it off.
Still a new shock cant hurt the ride quality even if it is going to be a budget Hagon  :nod
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 09, 2015, 09:48:27 PM
I'll sell you the stocker from my 955 is you don't want to go that route although it'll need new bottom bearing the needle rollers have a habit of dropping out done 6000 never seen a winters day in it's life.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 09, 2015, 11:17:15 PM
Very kind Chris...I take it yours is of the early variety so should fit ok? Just done a quick on world of triumph and cant see any bearings listed so are these a readily accessible item? If so PM me your asking price  :thumbsup

Edit just to add.... WoT  Shock for 885i Part # ending in 870 is coming in at  £743
                                                  955i  -     -     -       - 872 -      -       -   -  £94  ???
                                                  955i  -     -     -       - 873 -      -       -   -  £711
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 10, 2015, 04:11:24 PM
There's the shock.

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/2015-06-10%2016.44.50_zpseowaddb5.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/2015-06-10%2016.44.50_zpseowaddb5.jpg.html)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h185/wing2541/2015-06-10%2016.44.54_zpsngcybw03.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/wing2541/media/2015-06-10%2016.44.54_zpsngcybw03.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: John Stenhouse on June 10, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
I thought the length was different
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 10, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
My understanding is there's two 99/2003 and 2003 onwards.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: trophydave on June 10, 2015, 07:39:07 PM
Very kind Chris...I take it yours is of the early variety so should fit ok? Just done a quick on world of triumph and cant see any bearings listed so are these a readily accessible item?

Sprint Manufacturing do a bearing that fits,the rollers in it are held in place so they dont drop out all over the floor when you fit it.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: John Stenhouse on June 11, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
My understanding is there's two 99/2003 and 2003 onwards.

Stuff like this ought to be in the Girly sticky section somehow, just that info Chris is what we need to know. Bit like the stuff in the Steamer thread about calipers
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 11, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
Looks good Chris.... you have a new message. And thanks too to Trophydave, will check out Sprint engineering  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Bixxer Bob on June 11, 2015, 04:19:46 PM
Little but vital inputs from all directions, it's like the Borg Collective this place....  :hat10
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 13, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
Shock picked up and swingarm re fitted, just need to remove the bearing and fit the new one. Was good to meet Chris...really nice guy  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 14, 2015, 03:55:02 PM
Glad you got home not a great day for travel that's for sure.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 14, 2015, 06:31:29 PM
Bike rebuilt and tested, have to say the rear end is back in boingy business.....feels nice and taught too  :wheel
Big thanks to Chris for the shock  :nod
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 16, 2017, 04:47:07 PM
Just back from the MOT and it has an advisory on the rear bottom shock mount, looks like the bearings fooked and its only done just over 2k since it was fitted. So....is it still safe to use with free play as I need to scrub the new front tyre in before next weeks meet up.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 16, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
Hi Pete

The shock hadn't done 3/4000 miles if that and never seen a winters day in its life so it was either fitting or lubeing it'll be good enough for what you want but the longer you leave it the more hassle it'll be when you pull it out.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 16, 2017, 05:22:14 PM
Hi Chris, I got the bottom bearing from Sprint Engineering? I think, all was good on the rebuild with plenty of grease added, I cant have washed out cos its hardly seen rain since.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 16, 2017, 06:44:34 PM
Just bang another bearing in and try again.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Timbox2 on June 16, 2017, 07:28:41 PM
Did you use a new sleeve? When I put my Wilbers on the old sleeve was well knackered
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 16, 2017, 08:30:46 PM
Did you use a new sleeve? When I put my Wilbers on the old sleeve was well knackered

Managed to salvage the sleeve, cleaned up with a bit of emery in the lathe

Yes Chris...new one ordered along with the sleeve that's now included...£40 but hey ho
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 17, 2017, 07:48:04 AM
I had play in my bottom Ohlins bearing for years before I changed it.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Timbox2 on June 17, 2017, 09:04:38 AM
Thinking about it, my sleeve was probably toast because of the Hagon shock that had been on, Hagon use a brass bush for some reason instead of a bearing
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on June 17, 2017, 10:35:46 AM
Most makes use a bush these days rather than bearings due to the low angluar movement.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Timbox2 on June 17, 2017, 12:17:41 PM
Most makes use a bush these days rather than bearings due to the low angluar movement.

well I have to say mate thats not my experience, the top mount yes, but not the bottom. Wilbers actually use what resembles a Rose Joint
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Chris Canning on June 17, 2017, 05:33:43 PM
Think you'll find a bush is the solution at the bottom of the food chain.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 18, 2017, 08:40:48 PM
Shock removed and the bearing looks ok, but, now the shocks off there`s a bit of side movement in the swing arm that wasn't there before so looks like new swing arm bearings are required.
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Timbox2 on June 19, 2017, 06:23:48 AM
Shock removed and the bearing looks ok, but, now the shocks off there`s a bit of side movement in the swing arm that wasn't there before so looks like new swing arm bearings are required.

Just curious, how many miles has the bike done Pete?
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: PeteH on June 19, 2017, 10:36:30 AM
Just curious, how many miles has the bike done Pete?

Around 47k.

Gonna rebuild and have a proper gander after the meetup....should be ok I reckon  :augie
Title: Re: Boingy bits ?
Post by: Sin_Tiger on July 04, 2017, 04:55:51 PM
well I have to say mate thats not my experience, the top mount yes, but not the bottom. Wilbers actually use what resembles a Rose Joint

I hear what you're saying but Wilbers don't sell bikes  :icon_wink: